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Post by Moons on Sept 11, 2009 6:06:10 GMT -8
Please, unless the player has designed that her character has been reincarnated, don't make base assumptions. "Matching tags" are not sufficient RP reason for the above comment, which is why I reply OOC. Punishing the player for a character's actions is not OK. I had hoped that since the character was dead and buried, and never coming back that the players would have the mutual respect for the person who plays her to not decide to cross in order to further enact punitive measures on her as a player. Of course, if the player did indeed RP the new character as being a reincarnation; then please ignore my words. I've yet to speak with her for verification, but I doubt very much that she'd do such a thing.
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Post by rel on Sept 11, 2009 6:28:08 GMT -8
I agree with you, yet I have a question, right? At least three times now I've seen a 'character' go dead and buried, then create a 'new character'. Fine. It's their right. Seems ridiculous to me, especially when a lot of the ooc stuff that goes along with the 'character' going d&b is crossing, broken hearts, sick of the game, leave me in peace statements. Also - fine. A bit hypocritical, since they create a new character, but not really any of my business.
MY question is when the 'new' character KNOWS everyone how should I...as a character...react to that. My first assumption is that 'oh - we've obviously met before' or 'oh...interesting that this character has all the same friends as the other one...hmmm'. Then, because my interest is obviously perked enough to care, rel starts to dig. She can't help it, it's who she is. When, then, everything falls completely into place and rel's thoroughly traced everything about this vampie she can, it's marked down in her lil book. No, i don't have her call anyone out, but she definitely does make note.
Okay so for my question - don't you think that's silly? I mean if you go as far as putting your character to death under the guise of Greta Garbo 'Leave me alone' only to create a new one who truly hasn't put the others memories and actions to bed, how shall I have rel react to it - cause that's just fodder. It's like a carrot dangling. Ya know?
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aristeen
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Post by aristeen on Sept 11, 2009 6:36:00 GMT -8
Moons (sorry don't know your real name), if it would make you happy dear, I'll be more than happy to edit out the comment. The rest stays, cause Ari truly feels that Saeko was a chicken shit coward to do what she did.
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Josephine
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Post by Josephine on Sept 11, 2009 8:29:31 GMT -8
Honestly, she looks as if she is trying to play the same pyre as she is working to get Saeko's childer once more sired under her new character. This seems to be more of a start over with a new name to hope the old hostilities are broken by a simple changing of characters.
No doubt the mannerisms of the new vampire will be near identical to the manners of the old. We will see though, no doubt even the old partner bound will move from vampire a to vampire b in time...
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Post by Delphine on Sept 11, 2009 8:30:12 GMT -8
I agree with you, yet I have a question, right? At least three times now I've seen a 'character' go dead and buried, then create a 'new character'. Fine. It's their right. Seems ridiculous to me, especially when a lot of the ooc stuff that goes along with the 'character' going d&b is crossing, broken hearts, sick of the game, leave me in peace statements. Also - fine. A bit hypocritical, since they create a new character, but not really any of my business. MY question is when the 'new' character KNOWS everyone how should I...as a character...react to that. My first assumption is that 'oh - we've obviously met before' or 'oh...interesting that this character has all the same friends as the other one...hmmm'. Then, because my interest is obviously perked enough to care, rel starts to dig. She can't help it, it's who she is. When, then, everything falls completely into place and rel's thoroughly traced everything about this vampie she can, it's marked down in her lil book. No, i don't have her call anyone out, but she definitely does make note. Okay so for my question - don't you think that's silly? I mean if you go as far as putting your character to death under the guise of Greta Garbo 'Leave me alone' only to create a new one who truly hasn't put the others memories and actions to bed, how shall I have rel react to it - cause that's just fodder. It's like a carrot dangling. Ya know? *yells loudly* BINGO!!! |
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Post by Majica on Sept 11, 2009 8:40:08 GMT -8
So... what exactly did Saeko the charrie do? Cause I asked her personally OOC what happened and it sounds like alot of IC/OOC BS drama crossing to me.
IC, Maji doesn't recognize Moons' newest childe as anything but the young fledging that she is - Shirayuki.
The charrie Saeko has gone dead & buried and to my understanding is not being reincarnated into her new charrie. We've had a long talk about the do's & dont's so she has a clear understanding.
What I find sad is that a person can be harassed so terribly both IC and OOC that they feel they have no other choice but to take that route.
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Liander
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Post by Liander on Sept 11, 2009 14:10:25 GMT -8
I have to say here, I think reincarnation is actually a pretty good way to look at situations like this. That, or anything along the lines of the soul of a person going into a different body.
We RP ID tags, so if two pyres have a matching ID, how else are we supposed to look at it? I mean, IDs are kind of like DNA. They're individual to each person.
There are a few options.
1) It's a thrall. A devoted minion of another pyre.
2) It's a clone.
3) It's a twin.
4) It's the same soul.
This is just my personal view on things. No one has to agree with me. Neither Liander nor I care about this particular situation, but it's an interesting one that I've wanted to make this comment on for awhile. However, if Liander sees matching IDs... He's going to assume something fishy is going on.
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Post by seyda on Sept 11, 2009 14:21:05 GMT -8
So... what exactly did Saeko the charrie do? Cause I asked her personally OOC what happened and it sounds like alot of IC/OOC BS drama crossing to me.
IC, Maji doesn't recognize Moons' newest childe as anything but the young fledging that she is - Shirayuki.
The charrie Saeko has gone dead & buried and to my understanding is not being reincarnated into her new charrie. We've had a long talk about the do's & dont's so she has a clear understanding.
What I find sad is that a person can be harassed so terribly both IC and OOC that they feel they have no other choice but to take that route. To be perfectly honest with you, the reason it probably sounds like some IC/OOC BS drama crossing is because you're asking her OOC about IC things that have shit all to do with you or your character. My character has had actual involvement in this situation, as Saeko is in Seyda's bloodline. My character has had discussions with five different vampires regarding said situation to come to the conclusion that she did. Not once have I spoken to anyone OOCly regarding it, because it's not an OOC situation. For you to sit and imply that there is a bunch of crossing going on because you went to someone OOC to talk about something IC is ridiculous and insultive. I would appreciate it if you keep your baseless accusations to yourself in the future. |
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Post by seyda on Sept 11, 2009 14:39:35 GMT -8
Please, unless the player has designed that her character has been reincarnated, don't make base assumptions. "Matching tags" are not sufficient RP reason for the above comment, which is why I reply OOC. Punishing the player for a character's actions is not OK. I had hoped that since the character was dead and buried, and never coming back that the players would have the mutual respect for the person who plays her to not decide to cross in order to further enact punitive measures on her as a player. Of course, if the player did indeed RP the new character as being a reincarnation; then please ignore my words. I've yet to speak with her for verification, but I doubt very much that she'd do such a thing. "Sometimes the haunting is all we have left in this world" " Reincarnated by death. Death's hand had brought " It's in her sig, btw. |
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Liander
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Post by Liander on Sept 11, 2009 14:40:44 GMT -8
Please, unless the player has designed that her character has been reincarnated, don't make base assumptions. "Matching tags" are not sufficient RP reason for the above comment, which is why I reply OOC. Punishing the player for a character's actions is not OK. I had hoped that since the character was dead and buried, and never coming back that the players would have the mutual respect for the person who plays her to not decide to cross in order to further enact punitive measures on her as a player. Of course, if the player did indeed RP the new character as being a reincarnation; then please ignore my words. I've yet to speak with her for verification, but I doubt very much that she'd do such a thing. "Sometimes the haunting is all we have left in this world" " Reincarnated by death. Death's hand had brought " It's in her sig, btw. Win. |
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Post by Moons on Sept 11, 2009 15:20:15 GMT -8
Please, unless the player has designed that her character has been reincarnated, don't make base assumptions. "Matching tags" are not sufficient RP reason for the above comment, which is why I reply OOC. Punishing the player for a character's actions is not OK. I had hoped that since the character was dead and buried, and never coming back that the players would have the mutual respect for the person who plays her to not decide to cross in order to further enact punitive measures on her as a player. Of course, if the player did indeed RP the new character as being a reincarnation; then please ignore my words. I've yet to speak with her for verification, but I doubt very much that she'd do such a thing. "Sometimes the haunting is all we have left in this world" " Reincarnated by death. Death's hand had brought " It's in her sig, btw. Those could be lyrics to a song, or could be referencing something entirely different concerning the character's history.  |
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Post by seyda on Sept 11, 2009 15:22:23 GMT -8
"Sometimes the haunting is all we have left in this world" " Reincarnated by death. Death's hand had brought " It's in her sig, btw. Those could be lyrics to a song, or could be referencing something entirely different concerning the character's history. I'm actually supposed to buy that? Really? |
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Post by Liander on Sept 11, 2009 15:26:13 GMT -8
"Sometimes the haunting is all we have left in this world" " Reincarnated by death. Death's hand had brought " It's in her sig, btw. Those could be lyrics to a song, or could be referencing something entirely different concerning the character's history. I think the point is that you can't dictate what our characters assume, so long as it remains within the bounds of being IC. Which the comments did. |
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Post by Moons on Sept 11, 2009 15:31:40 GMT -8
Those could be lyrics to a song, or could be referencing something entirely different concerning the character's history. I'm actually supposed to buy that? Really? You don't have to buy anything. Ultimately it's her character and it is thus her choice what she does with it. Regardless of anyone's views on the matter, the characters are two different beings; and really when Saeko went dead and buried, that should have been the end of it. Why it is that the players behind the characters who dislike Saeko feel the need to continue their grudge onwards is beyond me. |
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Post by aristeen on Sept 11, 2009 18:19:13 GMT -8
Could it be, that the character Saeko, caused enough crap in soooooo many of the unlives of our characters, that they felt it was time to let her know that it wasn't going to be tolerated anymore? And then, instead of taking her beatings such as a vampyre that Majica described would have, the vampyre Saeko showed her cowardice by going D & B. Something that has happened far too many times in Raven Black City. Too many characters stirring up shit, but not willing to accept the consequences of their actions. Needless to say, when she went D & B, it raised a lot of hackles.
Maji's human? You want facts both IC and OOC? Give me a hollar. You have my number dear.
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