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Post by Louvain on Jun 6, 2009 5:58:59 GMT -8
PsuedoCap not being on the same page in ideal, deed, or thought? What else is new?
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Post by seyda on Jun 6, 2009 6:00:38 GMT -8
I dunno... while I'm sure there will be some sort of mass exit from Cap soon, I doubt Hanyou will be the one to lead it. Even if he had the guts to leave, he hasn't got the balls to organize something to actually hurt the clan.... like taking all the banking thralls with him and thus removing any paltry source of income for the 500 plus clan members >.> I mean come on.. he's been the 2iC of Cap for how long? About a year and a half? And he's still not fully powered. Looks like a lack of motivation and a case of being comfy where you're at to me. He's still not fully powered? LOL Maybe AA has wisened up and only allows underpowered and underfunded vampires to be his seconds. That way they physically cannot leave without being pummeled by his 'awesomeness'.
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Post by Mandolin on Jun 6, 2009 6:11:32 GMT -8
Seriously, SS him. Unless he magically got his last powers in the past week, he's still lacking.
On the upside, Hanyou is attacking TF because he claims Cap clan made a promise and it should be followed through on. So kudos for not following AA into his drug induced amnesiac state where the war never happened. Downside? Your clan leader won't back you up on your HW because he doesn't acknowledge the existence of anyone you're attacking.
Good move, champ. Good move.
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Post by Hanyou on Jun 6, 2009 16:28:39 GMT -8
I mean come on.. he's been the 2iC of Cap for how long? About a year and a half? And he's still not fully powered. Looks like a lack of motivation and a case of being comfy where you're at to me. I really don't understand why people are so hung up on this. So I don't have all of Locate and Telepathy, so what? I have thralls for that. I've got all the important stuff.
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Post by Lyric on Jun 6, 2009 17:18:26 GMT -8
It speaks to your motivation and capability. If you can't manage the drive or capability to get such simple powers, what does that say about your drive and capability in other realms?
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Post by Hanyou on Jun 6, 2009 17:59:02 GMT -8
It speaks to your motivation and capability. If you can't manage the drive or capability to get such simple powers, what does that say about your drive and capability in other realms? But, my dear, I have acquired the powers, I just feel like I utilize a more efficient way of using them.
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Post by Mandolin on Jun 6, 2009 18:10:16 GMT -8
Incorrect.
You, as in yourself, Hanyou, have not acquired said powers. You may have thralls that possess the aforementioned powers you lack, but you do not have them. As a 2iC you are supposedly looked up to and should be setting a precedent for behavior and actions with how you behave and act. If you can't be bothered to fully power yourself, it sets a bad example for the young ones who are trying to learn from you.
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Post by rel on Jun 6, 2009 19:33:18 GMT -8
I hate to even get involved in this whole nonsense, but I don't think that you or anyone else should dictate what powers another vampyre should or shouldn't have unless they are with your clan or I guess are you childe and you're training them. Some don't want all locates because of blind scrolling. Hell - I had to basically BRIBE drak to get her final charisma power because she claimed it was making her too nice. *cackles* It's true though...it was...damn - each time she felt the swell of charisma she just got a teeeeny bit sweeter. Is she here? Don't tell her. Point is - being fully 'powered' is great. I actually agree that you should, that all should work to attain all of your powers. To train hard and do them fully - not go to some back alley in ravenblack and get em quick but to really train and attain each power as they were meant to...without scrolls, with complete blood loss not jetting to some necro-jack after wards, but to have to build back up. Your bank, your strength, the entire thing... It's important to become as strong a vampyre as you can...yet some would also equate that to the amount of blood you possess. WELL - then I'd have to give up my addiction to hunters, and although I am going to my meetings at HA, I still dabble. It's the green hue. I...just...can't...stop. Or that would mean I would have to don a cloak in order to fall respectfully into torpor if I fall in battle? There are no black and white's here. You do what you want to do - and those that follow you or that you yourself follow - and let Hanyou do whatever the hell he wants. Hell - he's already passing through some hole between realms to even BE here...he must be tired from all that traveling. Give him a break! I will say that utilizing minions to become more 'powerful' than you are is odd, but if that's what floats your boat SKOL!
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Post by Josephine on Jun 6, 2009 19:52:05 GMT -8
Rel you have the same addiction as me....*sighs* They just look so tasty...
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Post by rel on Jun 6, 2009 20:56:08 GMT -8
*nods* the more they hit me the more I WANT THEM! Oh the amount of clothes I've ruined with holes...
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Post by Josephine on Jun 6, 2009 22:34:10 GMT -8
Oh I know...and I always feel bad coming home all battered and bloody; yet so triumphant that I got them and the coin to show.
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Post by hairbear on Jun 6, 2009 23:18:26 GMT -8
I love the greenies. The fat bastards are very delish.
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Post by Mandolin on Jun 7, 2009 16:32:47 GMT -8
I hate to even get involved in this whole nonsense, but I don't think that you or anyone else should dictate what powers another vampyre should or shouldn't have unless they are with your clan or I guess are you childe and you're training them. Some don't want all locates because of blind scrolling. Hell - I had to basically BRIBE drak to get her final charisma power because she claimed it was making her too nice. *cackles* It's true though...it was...damn - each time she felt the swell of charisma she just got a teeeeny bit sweeter. Is she here? Don't tell her. Point is - being fully 'powered' is great. I actually agree that you should, that all should work to attain all of your powers. To train hard and do them fully - not go to some back alley in ravenblack and get em quick but to really train and attain each power as they were meant to...without scrolls, with complete blood loss not jetting to some necro-jack after wards, but to have to build back up. Your bank, your strength, the entire thing... It's important to become as strong a vampyre as you can...yet some would also equate that to the amount of blood you possess. WELL - then I'd have to give up my addiction to hunters, and although I am going to my meetings at HA, I still dabble. It's the green hue. I...just...can't...stop. Or that would mean I would have to don a cloak in order to fall respectfully into torpor if I fall in battle? There are no black and white's here. You do what you want to do - and those that follow you or that you yourself follow - and let Hanyou do whatever the hell he wants. Hell - he's already passing through some hole between realms to even BE here...he must be tired from all that traveling. Give him a break! I will say that utilizing minions to become more 'powerful' than you are is odd, but if that's what floats your boat SKOL! Time for a backstory! See rel, as much as I like you I'm afraid you don't have a full grasp of the Hanyou situation. No, I don't have a right to dictate what powers he should and shouldn't have... but Lyric and I have known Hanyou for some time now and it's been a pain to even make him get the 'important stuff'. When I joined Cap as a 2iC I thought Hanyou was just another higher level student or new clan member. Why? Because he hardly had anything. AA may have made him an officer because of Hanyou's 'loyalty', but that's the only thing that recommended him to the position. The first time Cap had to hit someone, I was the one coordinating attacks because Hanyou didn't have Locate... he didn't have anything in Cel or Stam past 1 either. That condition persisted for months and months until I got fed up about having a co-2iC how some of the new members were now surpassing in powers. Even AA was a bit frustrated with Hanyou's lack of motivation to finish. Again, it has been many months since Lyric and I left Cap clan, but Hanyou hasn't changed. He finished getting his 'important stuff' and stopped there because he's not willing to take a few days out of his napping and get those last few things. Also again, as a 2iC he should be setting an example for the clan. If AA hadn't made Hanyou get the powers he has now, he'd still be one of the most fantastically weak links in an even weaker clan. I admitted I don't have the ability to say what powers pires should get if they're not in my care, but I do have the ability to point out just how sad it is that someone so young was given such a position in a clan and should be working harder to set a good example. Unless, of course they just want a clan of non-battle ready pires who can't even bother to get the 'important stuff'.
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Post by Lameth on Jun 7, 2009 20:06:49 GMT -8
Y'know what else is sad? That a person intelligent enough to come here, bicker, bitch and moan about someone else who holds the same position she once held and their lack of powers with a very well spoken story was also so unintelligent enough to have not only been in but was also 2iC of a clan ran by Archangel, his cowardly self. Love you dearly, Mando, just saying.
Hanyou has his reasons for the things he does or doesn't do and I respect those, personally, I think he'd be a better leader for Cap clan than Archangel, at least he has the common decency to fight an honorable fight, not hide in shadows while his clan mates die, and can admit a loss rather than slandering the humans behind the pires stomping his ass. Though he has followed Archangel all this time, so even while he isn't a mindless sheep, I can't really comment on his mental or intellectual state.[a href="http://[del:lameth]"]http://[del:lameth][/a]
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Post by rel on Jun 7, 2009 20:20:14 GMT -8
I'd have copied but it woulda gotten long... Regardless of my agreement of your position, I was just pointing out that... #1 Kudos for anyone else finding insight on his weakness, cause it only helps you. If Archie keeps him in that position, it's not your problem anymore. #2 Regardless of your frustration when you were there, you're much happier NOT being there anymore so celebrate that #3 He's a weary boy. He has to travel to two realms all the time even to make sense of his newly acquired situation! That's wonko for ANYONE. I still have no idea what the hell it even means. #4 Hunters are delicious. I think that goes without saying, but I must reiterate that their blood? For some reason? Holy hell is it good! PLUS THE COINAGE? *drools* ...all this and I don't even know him!
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