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Post by hairbear on May 11, 2009 12:59:57 GMT -8
I was quite surprised when I joined Clan Capadocious. It is filled with an amazing group of vampires. I am quite proud of their abilities. They work together for the betterment of the clan. I must imagine Mandolin's sorry with the severance of Damson. (As she is one of my most favorite vampires. )I know that many reader have been members at one time or another, but clans are very fluid. The clan environment changes with every addition or deletion of clan members.
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Post by Cathan Aeternus on May 11, 2009 13:23:52 GMT -8
According to the one I trust more than anything in this city, the abilites in this clan are at the same level of a pre-school for human children. So, the "Join or Die", I'm assuming is going out to all of us in this city. So I'm going to have to choose option C, which is "Sit back, laugh, and enjoy a nice cold beer while I do so."
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Post by hairbear on May 11, 2009 13:48:51 GMT -8
According to the one I trust more than anything in this city, the abilites in this clan are at the same level of a pre-school for human children. So, the "Join or Die", I'm assuming is going out to all of us in this city. So I'm going to have to choose option C, which is "Sit back, laugh, and enjoy a nice cold beer while I do so." Honestly, I would have probably reacted that same way if that was the method of my recruitment....but fortunately, I was recruited by a friend that I spoke with in the ghettos. I was impressed with his enthusiasm and friendship.
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Post by seyda on May 11, 2009 16:48:19 GMT -8
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Post by hairbear on May 11, 2009 17:03:23 GMT -8
I think that applies to the vampire population in general. I am amazed at the amount of bindings and severances. ;D You'd think RavenBlack City was Las Vegas.
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Post by black_dragonet on May 12, 2009 1:10:53 GMT -8
Honestly... The recent displays from Cap leadership, as well as the late posts by Cap regarding the war have given me the worst impression ever...
I know there are some fine people there, but honestly, even Ravynne's leadership capacities were a lot greater than AA's ones. Were I a newly turned vampire, Cap certainly would be one of the last places I'd think about.
Besides, I'd very much like if your recruiters were not so noisy. A clan resorting to city shouters to recruit people really seems to be desperate.
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Post by hairbear on May 12, 2009 6:48:35 GMT -8
Honestly... The recent displays from Cap leadership, as well as the late posts by Cap regarding the war have given me the worst impression ever... I know there are some fine people there, but honestly, even Ravynne's leadership capacities were a lot greater than AA's ones. Were I a newly turned vampire, Cap certainly would be one of the last places I'd think about. Besides, I'd very much like if your recruiters were not so noisy. A clan resorting to city shouters to recruit people really seems to be desperate. I know that many will not understand the complexity of this statement but, profound change can only come from within. Unfortunately, stories of Archangel are greatly exaggerated. I speak to him several times a week. I find him refreshingly open about his thoughts and emotions. He is very tangible and accessible. I would consider this a very admirable quality in a leader.
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Post by black_dragonet on May 12, 2009 7:40:37 GMT -8
I know that many will not understand the complexity of this statement but, profound change can only come from within. Unfortunately, stories of Archangel are greatly exaggerated. I speak to him several times a week. I find him refreshingly open about his thoughts and emotions. He is very tangible and accessible. I would consider this a very admirable quality in a leader. Well, being open and caring are good qualities in a sire, but don't make a fine leader. Getting involved in a war after the brunt of the fight has happened is poor form to my eye. Using the means of communications that have been used to try to lure feebleminded Ferrymen out of the fight and their clan is very low, all the more when it happens repeatedly. Not having the guts to do it under their own name really is nothing but despicable. When I have something to say, even if I know it will anger people, then I do it under my name, and I bear with the consequences. Associating my words to my name is making a statement. The other side may agree, or not, but "I" stand behind my words. I may be wrong, but I speak my thoughts, i'll not say white when I think black, or grey. ArchAngel's using some younglings from his clan to send his messages is, to my eye, utterly devoid of the barest hint of basic courtesy and leadership substance. The one speaking for the clan is the clan leader. Period. Leader qualities are strategic thinking, courage, dignity, guts, and elegance. AA is found wanting on these items.
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Post by hairbear on May 12, 2009 8:36:33 GMT -8
Albeit, you are entitled to your opinions, ......hairbear nods in affirmation........ but the repugnance you feel for Archangel also blinds you to simple truths.
Great love and great hatred, both emotions grant great power. How we harness this power is how the future will unfold.
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Post by Lestat de Lioncourt on May 12, 2009 8:40:42 GMT -8
If you plan to rebutt everyone that doesn't like Archangel, you may want to pack a lunch. You've got a line 800 vampires long on this paper alone.
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Post by hairbear on May 12, 2009 9:01:07 GMT -8
If you plan to rebutt everyone that doesn't like Archangel, you may want to pack a lunch. You've got a line 800 vampires long on this paper alone. ;D I am enjoying a simple exchange of semantics with black_dragonet. Cognitive thought has always been a pleasureable stimulus.
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Post by Idony on May 12, 2009 9:24:49 GMT -8
Thank you, deary. That's the stupidest thing I've read in a while, your clan's advertising posters included.
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Post by hairbear on May 12, 2009 10:34:11 GMT -8
......hairbear shakes her head and smiles.........she muses of words once said.......
Such the theme which Sir Lytton has recently hit on, to expand his rare fancy, and feeling and wit on, And the moral is this- if, conspiring in flocks, silly geese will presume to play tricks with a fox, and strive by finesse to get rid of the pest, They must always expect to come off second best!
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Post by Bug Merovingian on May 12, 2009 16:50:20 GMT -8
Hairbear, you perhaps are the greatest PR spokesperson I have seen come from AA's Clan, yet you still have not rebut Dragonette's simple observations on AA's leadership skills. I will grant to some he may seem quite charismatic and able, yet the simple facts remain on what appears to be his leadership qualities. Charisma does not equate to leadership abilities.
Now, as to the "profound change" you mentioned, are you perhaps the bringer of such change?
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Post by hairbear on May 12, 2009 22:09:04 GMT -8
Hairbear, you perhaps are the greatest PR spokesperson I have seen come from AA's Clan, yet you still have not rebut Dragonette's simple observations on AA's leadership skills. I will grant to some he may seem quite charismatic and able, yet the simple facts remain on what appears to be his leadership qualities. Charisma does not equate to leadership abilities. Now, as to the "profound change" you mentioned, are you perhaps the bringer of such change? And pray tell, what would you consider leadership qualities? As I mentioned before, clans are very fluid with the ebb and flow of it's membership. Each member has skills that can be an asset or liability. It is the leader that recognizes the raw talent and also has the capacity to nurture and inspire his foundlings. Very few vampires have the skill to recognize talent and even fewer have the ability to cultivate it. Archangel has this very special skill. He inspires his clan. Each member has a place of honor and duty within the clan. He is what binds Clan Capadocious. In as much as the power of Charisma, tell me, how do many of the human politicians (leaders) manage to find their rise to power? as I said before....... Significant change always comes from within.
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