Idony
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Post by Idony on Sept 17, 2009 10:02:32 GMT -8
Look who's back... Missed ya, punk.
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Rienhardt
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Post by Rienhardt on Sept 17, 2009 11:35:57 GMT -8
There's a few people I'd like to quote but I've always found those big multiple quote/response posts a bit distasteful. So read on, and if the hat fits...
Its been said that ''an apology should be public''. And that the importance of the apology is recognizing ones error regardless of whether or not that apology is accepted. I disagree, just imagine someone saying ''Look, I'm sorry. If you can't accept that I don't care. I already did my part by apologizing''. It just doesn't work like that.
I think the purpose of apologizing is trying make amends for that which one regrets doing; redemption so to speak. Which is very different then simply admitting ones actions were wrong. I'm sure we can all remember at least one moment in time in which we've gladly, maybe even proudly chosen the low road; and usually the act of admitting our fault isn't enough to merit forgiveness. Granted, verbalizing one's intent to seek redemption is usually the right the right step towards achieving it. But unless the words are expressed sincerely and followed by a real effort to amend ones wrong doings then the whole act of apologizing is trivialized. Personally I would find that just as offensive (if not more) as the original offence.
As far as apologizing in public goes, I'm against it. I think if the offense was personal then the apology should be personal. I believe that the only situations in which a public apology is preferable is when the vast majority of a community is directly affected. However in this particular situation there are only 4 pires directly affected (Namely: Vera, NightTerrors, Brom, and Arlana). I understand that there are people who care for some of the parties involved (Myself included), but when its all said and done this is between them. I think that it was distasteful of Arlana to make this more public then it had to be, even if it was to apologize.
It was also implied that Arlana was simply following her sire's example. I am by no means justifying or excusing Brom's actions but I think we can all agree that she's not that innocent. Um, yea... <.<
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Post by Uriah Solus on Sept 17, 2009 14:50:11 GMT -8
Really...It's done and over with. The necessary severances were done. She apologized in public because...I don't feel like quoting, but Vera did say she was ignoring the girl. So...it's whatever. Really...No one is perfect in this situation, not even the people who got hurt. Should most be walking around with their noses tilted up in the air like they're better? Hardly. And I'm not going to say why because I don't feel like putting anymore people's laundry out. Because they are the -hurt- ones in this case.
She apologized. Let it go. If you don't want to talk to her. Don't. But..if you did or do accept the apology, the mature thing on your end would end the circle of disrespect that had started.
Oh shit, what do I mean by that?
If you aren't going to talk to her, be mature enough to let it go and not disrespect her in public. I don't care if you think she deserves it. Because I'm pretty sure there have been times some of you didn't get wholly what you deserved for your actions. But don't be stupid and immature to call her a whore in the taverns when she comes in. She's young. She's made a mistake. She slept with a bound man. I can name a few people who've gotten involved with a bound vampire. So she wasn't able to keep it hush hush like some of you have. Doesn't make you any better than her.
And that's all I got about this. Move on.
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rel
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Post by rel on Sept 18, 2009 8:34:21 GMT -8
What's wrong with apologizing in public. For years vampires would actually go into RBB and state in front of anyone there drinking what they had to say. Just because here she's sitting behind some computer doesn't mean it isn't valid nor does it mean that the act needs to be judged. Are you all so bored to snippet over something so silly? It's up to Vera to accept the apology or not to... this doesn't have anything to do with anyone other than those that were involved. Ya harpies!
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rel
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Post by rel on Sept 18, 2009 8:37:28 GMT -8
Brom on the other hand, is a known whore. I mean, jeez, he was hitting on me like a few days before you two got hooked up. And like Coq had said, you sure as hell weren't the only one he proposed to. [/color][/quote] Huh...interesting...known for what it is, accepted for what he is, and yet is judged for what he is. *smiles wider* This just gets more and more delicious.
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Lisastrata
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Post by Lisastrata on Sept 18, 2009 9:04:21 GMT -8
Rel, there isn't anyone in this city that isn't judged for one thing or another. This kid has guts. I'll give her that...the smarts, not so much, but there are people who can help her with that, and if she's naive enough to make the same mistake twice...well, she'll learn the old fashioned way, won't she? And I'll steal her entrails while she's laying dead on the street and use them to devine the end of the world or something. Like Bambi said, it's the circle of unlife... Damn it, there is a song coming on...and my cats are singing it...
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Post by Jackie O'Collin on Sept 18, 2009 15:51:01 GMT -8
I honestly read through all of this, and my suggestion has been mentioned. Don't just bitch out Arlana or whatever-her-name-is. Go at Brom, he's the other part of this whole thing. And I'm sure you have, Vera. But just thought I'd put my input in..
Oh, and I'm sorry this happened to you Vera. From what I know, you're a lovely person and this is a horrid thing to happen.
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Lyrene
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Post by Lyrene on Sept 19, 2009 9:06:23 GMT -8
Condolences Vera.
Good luck Arlana.
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Post by Errah Dragolescu on Sept 19, 2009 12:46:50 GMT -8
Even if it was a conscious choice that Arlana was magically duped into. Brom is a putz. Yes. What he did was wrong. Yes. He was a lousy sire to Arlana. Yes. But damnit, she's a grown ass piress and a grown ass woman. Even in her appology she states that she KNEW what she was doing was wrong. That, in my mind, does NOT make her a victim. She was a willing participant in something she was aware was fucked up. ((On an OOC note, i think it is very difficult to be "raped' or "taken advantage of" in RP. There's this handy little button on the top of the YM box, and i know there's a similar button in the chats, labeled "ignore". You dont like what a pire is doing. Push that handy little button and quit talkin' to him/her. Otherwise, go through with the act, willingly, and then deal with the consequences.)) Edited to add: Plus. I think making Arlana the victim gives Brom WAAAAAY too much credit. *Shrugs*
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rel
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Post by rel on Sept 19, 2009 12:49:07 GMT -8
Rel, there isn't anyone in this city that isn't judged for one thing or another. Oh I agree, that's a testament to our city...what I find interesting is that he's known for this, right? I've read pages upon pages about who he is, how he seduces, charms, manipulates like a true vampire Casanova, how he was wooing more than one vampyress at the same time, etc ad nauseum, yes? Yet there's shock when he does exactly what you knew he'd do because why...you thought you'd change him? That he'd be different once he was bound? Is he responsible? Yes. To not being more open and forthright about who and what he is from the start so that no surprises would be sneaking up later. If you're a player, yet you give your heart to one that holds it higher than all else, and your partner is cool with that then this shit wouldn't be an issue. You either wouldn't have bound in the first place, or you wouldn't care what or who he took blood from. Sex? It's just sex. Blood? That's giving over much more that your body, it's a part of your essence. Did HE think he'd change? Tragic. For both of you. So, learn from this as well Vera...yes, you were wronged, but for the future...know who it is you're binding to. They don't change just because you think they will when you bind. They may grow with you and you both may change together for the better and sadly sometimes for the worse, but I see more and more vampire relationships end because of this very reason.
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petit_prince
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Post by petit_prince on Sept 24, 2009 6:06:58 GMT -8
Wake up, people... Fuckers don't change, they age...
There's no such thing as a vampire fucking only one lass in his entire unlife, unless they are nuts like Boomer, the brat, and a few others... Don't bind if you don't want to be cheated on, heh!
That said, siring a gal to fuck her, that's really fucked up! I guess you got your share of kicks in the butt, Brom, and you're now alone. I guess you won't need long before you find another to shag. That's unlife, folks... Boys get the best part, since you gals outnumber us two to one.
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Sept 24, 2009 7:38:45 GMT -8
Don't bind if you don't want to be cheated on, heh! You Sir have just taken stupidity to higher levels. ~HiS~
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petit_prince
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Post by petit_prince on Sept 24, 2009 7:44:04 GMT -8
Tell me of someone without a spouse/partner/official one who got cheated on, then you can call me stupid.
If people wanna fuck, let them fuck. Making it official and exclusice is just a waste. I know some people think different, but how surprising, they're the ones shocked when they end up cheated...
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Sept 24, 2009 8:04:30 GMT -8
Tell me of someone without a spouse/partner/official one who got cheated on, then you can call me stupid. If people wanna fuck, let them fuck. Making it official and exclusice is just a waste. I know some people think different, but how surprising, they're the ones shocked when they end up cheated... That's just an assumption on your part. NiF has never cheated on me, nor I him and we're nigh onto four years. Seyda and Asmia. If I had to hazard a guess, black_dragonet and Ophy, and that is just to name a few. Each relationship has different dynamics. Some are open some are not but to state quite baldly that to get bound is to get cheated on is the height of foolishness. It would be smarter to state that given certain vampires track records,ie 'cheating', lying, low IQ....lie down with dogs and you'll rise with fleas. ~HiS~
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petit_prince
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Post by petit_prince on Sept 24, 2009 8:20:01 GMT -8
There's no such thing as a vampire fucking only one lass in his entire unlife, unless they are nuts like Boomer, the brat, and a few others...Seems I could have added Seyda, you, and the brat to my list. You bitches wouldn't do things like the others anyway, so I'm only half surprised. The brat's just the brat... He just should get off his high horse. which has to be a gelding... He's so tightassed and never lets go of anything he'll someday explode from keeping it all inside. Teach him to fart when he needs to relieve the pressure! He can't take any lewd joke. Yeah, he's among the nuts... Hell, you're so numerous remaining bound that binding anniversaries makes it to news. Majority of the bindings don't last, and that's no assumption, that's just plain reading of the partner severances thread. Lot of vampires bind 'cause they're attention seeking or just immature and not realising what it is their partner thinks they have promised. Not you, not some of your friends but lots enough of others that I can say it...
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