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Post by Mandolin on Sept 26, 2009 8:36:20 GMT -8
Sorry. I don't react kindly to people writing rude things on what I write. If they're rude, I'm that way back. People earn my respect when they give me respect. Though, you do have a point; a good one at that. So I'll take your advice. Thank you. Little one, that's what we call 'lowering yourself to their level'. If someone is rude to you, it's best to try and keep a cool head so you don't look like an utter fool. If you react with anger, with rudeness, or with outright insults, it serves to show just how young you are and how much refining you need. Relax a little, and don't get so easily riled.
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Cael
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Post by Cael on Sept 26, 2009 10:56:42 GMT -8
Oh, Ai... Cool as a cucumber, bebe. We'll talk. To add...no. Just wow. Lots of wow.
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Post by Uriah Solus on Sept 26, 2009 11:22:16 GMT -8
How about if you don't like her soap box, don't read it. You're looking like a bully, Prom, it's not becoming of you. One thing, don't complain about the young if you're not going to at least try and guide them. Making fun of them doesn't -help- them. You can't make fun of them then expect them to respect you still. If this isn't obvious to that little fact, than I suppose it'll take a lot more time for some to have their eyes open. With that said, both the old and the young involved need to grow up a bit. Ai, ignore it. There's going to be a lot of older pyres who are disrespectful for no reason. Pretty much because something in their minds told them they could be since they've been here so long. Like said, you just need to rise above it and take it with a grain of salt. You'll be fine, babe.
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Saressa
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Post by Saressa on Sept 26, 2009 11:26:26 GMT -8
Thank you and very well put, Uriah.
Oh boy…
Ai, sweetheart calm down a bit and ignore those that insult. Don’t lower yourself to their level. Think of what is important, those that love you. Believe me, speaking on anger isn’t exactly the most brilliant thing to do. Those men are just rude, and they aren’t worth the embarrassment or trouble you can get into with opening your mouth and replying back. Simply look at the situation, evaluate it, and go blow off steam at the Manor.
I am proud of you for standing up for yourself and your beliefs, but Hun, you have to think of it in the way I do when it comes to retorting to useless comments. “Would my sire really approve of this?” While I’ve been reading the bickering, my jaw has dropped several times and I can’t believe how the words are coming out of your mouth.
Angyl, if you need to blow off steam, you know how to reach me and please do. I can’t say that they aren’t going to move on, but you have to learn to control that temper behind your pretty face.
To those that are insulting her thoughts, deal with it. It’s her soapbox, not yours. Go make one and insult the world there.
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Post by black_dragonet on Sept 26, 2009 12:04:04 GMT -8
*smiles* Thank you Meph.
In an amusing way, I think a lot of the people involved are both right and wrong... Most of those reproaching Angyl with the vacuity of her post are right in the fact that it is indeed an empty post, in terms of value added information. They are also wrong since saying whatever comes through the vampire's mind is precisely whay soapboxes are made for.
Angyl, you are right as far as saying what you want in here is concerned, you are right in defending yourself agains attacks that are excessive and quite unjust is a way, but I am not sure you have realised how much your behaviour here may have given a bad image of you. You are still young, very young, and it shows. I was at first mildly irritated when I read your statement, then decided it was your right to say whatever you wanted. I can still understand why some of the other readers can be irritated at you. Just remember that the same way you are entitled to say anything you want, so are they. You are as guilty of insulting you as they are. Insulting people who have insulted you clearly is not the best way to make an impression on other people.
I would suggest you write another article and let the matter die. Others will have a go at you, and you shouldn’t let yourself be dragged to their level. Make that article an interesting one, one with insight, which this one is not…
*tilts head* If you read all of the others articles, you shall find that there is quite more er… intellectual matter in them than in yours. People and fellow readers have been used to better, which partly explains why some of them are being difficult customers. Give them food for thought, and probably they’ll think they have their money’s worth, and they won’t insult the cook, or writer, in your case.
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Promethius
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Post by Promethius on Sept 26, 2009 12:28:39 GMT -8
This isn't a playground, and I'm nowhere near a bully. Some upstart young shit that hasn't even managed Cel2 is mouthing off to pires that have been around years longer than her with the hilarious notion she can tell them what to do. If someone else's childe can't learn how to behave around her betters, I don't see how it's my responsibility to teach her. We're vampires, for Bohr's sake. Not cuddly little daycare workers. Even if we were, my living father's most lasting lessons to me came at the business end of a razor strap. Seeing little brats like this makes me think that'd be a practice worthy of a renaissance.
This sub-sub-forum is laughworthy at best, and that's exactly what I'm doing. It's not like Coquette and Louvain are handing these things out unasked. She seriously thought that the equivalent of "Well, uhm, I love mommy and daddy and brother and sister and uhm my teddy bear" was something that needed its very own section of the press. and she's getting mocked for it. IMAGINE THAT.
Expecting everyone else to respect you, AFTER you do something retarded and BEFORE you show them the respect they've earned long before you stepped foot in the City, is logical and I'm sure it'll take you far. [/sarcasm]
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Post by Uriah Solus on Sept 26, 2009 12:53:58 GMT -8
Then how about lead by example? Cause everyone in this thread except for a handful have definitely dropped the ball in this. I get that you didn't think was important, but she's young and this was her first time using the soapbox. Intead of calling this 'Bullshit" and insulting the fact she hasn't done thing award worthy, why don't you explain to her that this isn't what soapboxes are for. Which you neglected to do. Instead, you called what she said bullshit and insulted what little she has done.
Maybe, just maybe, if you had showed her a little ounce of respect that you are expecting her to give you, maybe none of you would be immaturely bickering back and forth. Instead of insulting, like I said, you should have taken the opprotunity to -respectfully- educated her on what soapboxes are made for.
Respect given is respect earned. Just because you've been around longer, doesn't mean you'll get the respect you think you've earned if you can't even respect others, including the young.
Now, if you want to continue this discussion, we can. Just not here. I'm not going to flood the poor girl's soap box anymore than it has.
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petit_prince
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Post by petit_prince on Sept 26, 2009 13:03:18 GMT -8
I wouldn't let you lay a finger on me. You could just fuck yourself; it's called masturbation. Nah! it's called assfingering. Something you're clearly more used to than I am. Masturbation is fine. You should try it some more, it would make you say things with more substance and interest than what you've said until now. More exciting too. Or not. You'd fake... Listen to the man in the coat... A lot of words he uses, but contrary to the bitch, they make sense. He just forgot to recall she said she liked her panties too, because they were comfortable. I'm a shit, but you're not any better than I am. I'm just older, harder shit than you are. Are you happy knowing we're the same material? Or not *snickers* Follow the brat's advice and write something half intelligent. I might change my mind. or not.
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Post by Promethius on Sept 26, 2009 13:03:52 GMT -8
Intead of calling this 'Bullshit" and insulting the fact she hasn't done thing award worthy, why don't you explain to her that this isn't what soapboxes are for. Which you neglected to do. You mean like this? You young shits got the expression "soapbox" from my time amongst the living. Preachers and speakers who had something to say would grab one of the empty wooden crates that soap was shipped in, turn it upside down, climb on top of it, and yell it to the crowds. So basically, each side expects the other to respect them first, before they'll show an ounce of it. Meanwhile, one side has earned it while the other hasn't. Where's the logic here?
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Post by Uriah Solus on Sept 26, 2009 13:23:54 GMT -8
Don't try to twist my words around. You keep throwing how long you've been around. "I don't care how long you've been around if you can't respect me even if I'm young" is basically what I'm getting at.The young isn't going to give the older ones respect if the older ones jump at the opprotunity to disrespect the young when they make a mistake. Lead by example. Teach them. That's all I am saying.
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petit_prince
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Post by petit_prince on Sept 26, 2009 13:41:10 GMT -8
*laughs* I lead by example. You just don't want to follow me. Seems you also don't like my teaching methods. They make a mistake, they get a slap. If you cuddle them each time they shit on their selves, how will they ever get clean? That's a stinky way to have the youth grow up.
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Angyl Irene Solus
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Post by Angyl Irene Solus on Sept 26, 2009 13:59:51 GMT -8
...A lot happened while I was away.
To save from copying and pasting continuously, I'll just say thanks to those who gave me advice of what to do for future situations like these (Cael, Saressa, etc.; they know who they are.) as well as those that defended me. I realize what I did wasn't the bright thing to do. After I replied the way I did, calmed down and looked at what I wrote, I saw how stupid I was being. That being said, I'm making sure this doesn't happen again. I'll simply ignore those who simply want to write whatever nasty things they feel fit to write and acknowledge those that offer compliments/constructive criticism to improve.
My apologies to those that got dragged into this by my fighting back or are ashamed of how I reacted. I'm sincerely sorry.
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Post by black_dragonet on Sept 26, 2009 14:04:51 GMT -8
*nods* That's the beginning of wisdom.
Take the time for the temper to cool off before reacting. Good luck in your future endeavours.
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Nyatta Leigh Kigarra-Morte
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Post by Nyatta Leigh Kigarra-Morte on Sept 26, 2009 15:20:59 GMT -8
When she was still alive, my grandma told me that honey attracts more people than vinegar....I think that was it. Can't remember if it was people, but you get the point hopefully. >.<'
Anyway, the meaning behind that is kindness works better than bitterness. If people are disrespectful to you, thst small saying might help.
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Angyl Irene Solus
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Post by Angyl Irene Solus on Sept 26, 2009 15:35:33 GMT -8
Thank you, black_dragonet.
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