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Post by Nghthawk on Aug 20, 2008 22:08:11 GMT -8
I could of course just assume that karmann is in Syphs too. Or you could ask the Sypheronias leaders, rather than having to assume anything.
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Post by black_dragonet on Aug 20, 2008 23:27:03 GMT -8
I could of course just assume that karmann is in Syphs too. Or you could ask the Sypheronias leaders, rather than having to assume anything. NO. When someone attacks you, you being generic for anyone sensible, you ask them why, and you ask them who is responsible for them. If said someone is a prick enough to not tell the names of their leaders, you go to the last known ones, and ask. When said last known ones tell the vampire does not belong to his clan, then you don't go asking all the leaders in the city. You just don't. You are pissed, and you ask. Genevive did just that. You could always ask Syph *shrugs* seems sensible to ask the known leaders of one, or the last known leaders.... In regards to karmann, I did contact her last known leader. And Gev said she was not a member of OI. So I went back to karmann and got nothing but the run around. quote] Meph maybe and in my view certainly speaks too much, but in this case, and as stated below, he did what was proper. karmann did not, and he answered a comment that was strangely similar to yours... So, what are you trying to bring in this debate ? why shoot a supposedly deprecating comment to someone that did the proper and honourable thing to do (it's been scarce enough lately for you to not miss that one, huh?), even if he could and should have left his wife do the asking? If you are the leader of the said vampires, are you trying to avoid answering, because you are ashamed of their acts and your lack of control over your clanspeople. If you are not, why not simply state that they are not yours, and you don't care what happens to them. Either way, behave like a leader, or change jobs. Gevurah simply said they were not his, al least not anymore. He didn't shirk answering. I have been asked a few times what clan I was in, and answered. I didn't try to be funny or mysterious or an ass by saying "guess". I have become pissed over this, because Meph behaving like a prick is no excuse to attack Genevive, if the attacks are not linked, then it is a case of bandwagon stupid bullying of someone I respect just for being bound to someone they don't like and know not to be clanned. Besides, I have always despised those not able to stand for their deeds and they do. Do you ?
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Post by RavynneNitewnd on Aug 21, 2008 5:27:02 GMT -8
If you are so concerned about where Karmann has gone, why not try contacting her sire and asking him directly? You never did do that. Second, Cathrina is a Sypheronian and not a noob. She's been around longer then you Meph. If you have any concerns regarding these matters I suggest you contact either myself or Nghthawk and then come out of shadows for more then 20 minutes at a time, maybe the heat will be taken off of your spouse if you man up and take what is coming to you. Hiding behind her is truly pathetic.
So call me a c*nt again, keep it coming, go around running your mouth, plotting your schemes. Your days of being tolerated are over.
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Genevive Sinclair
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Post by Genevive Sinclair on Aug 21, 2008 6:51:49 GMT -8
Hmmmm...interesting. Wow...one lone family/clanless piress against... hmmm... 10 and more to come I don't doubt. So instead of answering in a civilized manner... you send a mass message that Meph and I are free game and start tossing the HW? For what? Because you couldn't find the balls to answer us privately or publicly? You all really don't amount to anything more than human school yard bullies picking on the smaller children.
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Post by RavynneNitewnd on Aug 21, 2008 9:58:04 GMT -8
I dont recall either of you contacting me, only harassing clan members and making demands of them that they cannot comply with...
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Post by Mephistophlese Sinclair on Aug 23, 2008 12:41:29 GMT -8
If by harrassing clan members you mean asking the girls why they scrolled Gen, then why yes I did. [insert=sarcasm]How stooooopid of me to contact the actual attackers. And then to top it off I did a boneheaded move and contacted karmanns sire. Jeesus I'm dense.[/sarcasm]
It would seem to me that someone and I won't mention any names has a very warped opinion of what harrassment is among other things. But hey, you know what they say about opinions. And I surely have mine.
Are you saying that you do not allow your clan members name you as their leader? Or that they don't know? What the "H" "E" double hocky sticks? Can't comply. Phht... *Shakes head*
"Meph called me a name so I got my friends to beat him up. And then I had my friends beat up his girlfriend. And then I had them beat up his employees too. Ain't I a badass?"
Ravy, you are a schoolyard bully. And like a bully you don't have the cajones to face a wee little pire like me who is less than 1/10th your size w/o a gang to watch your back. You would rather put more pires blood at stake just to feel safe and badass.
My wife and my employee have done NOTHING against you. But in your warped and twisted mind you feel it is ok to attack them just to bring me out for the gang bang. You dear have no patience
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Post by Itami on Aug 23, 2008 20:37:43 GMT -8
All I have to say is this:
Genevive was so undeserving of such treatment in my opinion. I would say more, but I'm not one to rant about other people's personal matters too much.
Take care everyone. <3
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Post by JokerofLust on Aug 28, 2008 22:09:52 GMT -8
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Post by Fenrir della Rocco on Aug 29, 2008 13:22:59 GMT -8
Hrm... Never thought I'd have to actually say this... but these attacks make me ashamed to be a Merovingian...
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Post by JokerofLust on Aug 29, 2008 13:55:34 GMT -8
Yes, even with things going on now as they are. That's an excellent thing to say. Especially in the papers. This just made me feel oh-so-dandy! (: There's always a reason behind everything that happens, baby boy. You just have to delve a bit deeper and don't trust just the words of those in the public eyes, go to the source. Ask questions. Get answers. Then you can go and judge things, because just going based on what you "heard" is an ignorance-based setup. *kisses his cheek* 'Member that.
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Post by Genevive Sinclair on Aug 29, 2008 17:32:03 GMT -8
Yes, even with things going on now as they are. That's an excellent thing to say. Especially in the papers. This just made me feel oh-so-dandy! (: There's always a reason behind everything that happens, baby boy. You just have to delve a bit deeper and don't trust just the words of those in the public eyes, go to the source. Ask questions. Get answers. Then you can go and judge things, because just going based on what you "heard" is an ignorance-based setup. *kisses his cheek* 'Member that. You're so right Joker...however, sometimes when you go to the source...all you get are lies and BS...which is what I got when trying to figure out what I had done to deserve so much blood loss. This was only brought public with hopes that maybe one of the pires responsible for attacking me would man up and quit dicking me, my husband, and then my sire around. LOL But yeah we see where that went. But I'm over all that now, I've come to realize the only way to make it in this city now-a-days is to lie, cheat, and manipulate. So much for the so called honor I was raised to embrace.
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Post by JokerofLust on Aug 29, 2008 21:42:09 GMT -8
To each his/her own.
I know why you put this up here, and if I were you I would've done the same thing to get answers out of someone hitting me, whether it be blindly or for reason. I was just saying that what he said, my childe, wasn't the best of things to say when he didn't know the situation fully.
Also, maybe you're right; maybe the only way to make anything of yourself in the city nowadays is to lie, cheat and manipulate. Need that be the case, I wouldn't amount to anything because I do neither. :/
Teaching, also, only goes so far and sometimes pires pick and chose which side of the teachings to embrace. Whether or not they embrace the intended part or not is their own deal; but what they do with it, effects everyone whether we like it or not.
What I'm meaning to say is, honor can be taken many ways. The way I was raised and taught, could be different from someone else's belief/teachings. Everything is a matter of perspective, it just takes a bit of common sense to use it in everyday unlife.
Just in case this gets blown out of proportion in anyway. No I wasn't trying to lash out on anyone, these were just my thoughts on those last couple of statements you made.
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Post by Errah Dragolescu on Aug 30, 2008 12:15:04 GMT -8
What I'm meaning to say is, honor can be taken many ways. The way I was raised and taught, could be different from someone else's belief/teachings. Everything is a matter of perspective, it just takes a bit of common sense to use it in everyday unlife. Nicely put, Joker. Diversity isn't a bad thing; so long as we can agree to disagree.
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Post by black_dragonet on Aug 30, 2008 15:53:15 GMT -8
What I'm meaning to say is, honor can be taken many ways. The way I was raised and taught, could be different from someone else's belief/teachings. Everything is a matter of perspective, it just takes a bit of common sense to use it in everyday unlife. Nicely put, Joker. Diversity isn't a bad thing; so long as we can agree to disagree. Er... Sorry... Whatever perspective I try to look at that situation, I cannot see any honour there... I have always held the merovingian name in great esteem, but here, there's something I just fail to understand... Whatever bad you might have with Meph you keep with Meph. Genevive has nothing to do with that. I have never seen or heard of some vampire being zeroed for deeds made by his partner. The questions and request for answers have been made properly, not quite the way one would have expected Meph to do it. Why not answer them civilly instead of using evasion or mockery ? I am starting to wonder if the latest batch of attacks is not an attempt to silence a voice that tells a discomfortable truth... Am I also going to be attacked because I want to know ? Will you also attack truth to silence it ? I have yet to see an answer to many questions that have been asked. Answering Gen questions by repeating how much an ass Meph is is avoidance of the real issues. I'll tell you what I feel right now : some have acted and are are acting even more stupidly than Meph, and not daring to admit it. Give me one thing you have against Gen that could explain the attacks... Give me one reason why the two attackers didn't want to disclose who their leaders were... Give me one reason to not consider this as plain bandwagon bullying of a weakened vampire... You have had ample time to provide suitable answers, yet did not. Why ? I expect more from those bearing the Merovingian name.
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Post by Bug Merovingian on Sept 1, 2008 16:06:27 GMT -8
The Merovingian line is not involved in this per se. A few of our members have chosen to involve themselves, and are free to do as they wish in this, for reasons I will not go into. For some to disparage the whole line is inappropriate at best.
This is not a move against Meph, and or Gen, by us. If it were, there would have been more attacks involved.
Black Dragonet, I understand your line of thinking here, and from your stand point, it is fully justified. But, it is inaccurate. Perhaps look to the clan level, rather than to the direction another has pointed.
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