I fail k? ;x 8/24

[Blade]

Okay, how bout I just do these whenever during the week? >.>

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Blade: What is your take on the recent zeroing-thing of Mephistopheles? Do you consider a suicide via hunters as an actual 'zeroing', or no?
JokerofLust: Personally, I take it as him being so far down that even humans would have the best of him.
JokerofLust: I also.. do consider it a zeroing. His blood is depleted, so it is what it is.
Blade: Thank you. ;D
JokerofLust: You're welcome. (:

Blade: What is your take on the recent zeroing-thing of Mephistopheles? Do you consider a suicide via hunters as an actual 'zeroing', or no?
rykoth_obraonain: I would not count it as a zeroing but I'd capitalize on the hunter's actions and nail the bastard to a wall.
Blade: *snerk* Thank you for your insight.
rykoth_obraonain: Suicide is a coward's way out in my eyes.
Blade: Amen.

Blade: What is your take on the recent zeroing-thing of Mephistopheles? Do you consider a suicide via hunters as an actual 'zeroing', or no?
Naimira: No.
Naimira: And I've no idea who that Mephistopheles is, but if he suicided via hunters, then I'm kinna glad I don't know him. >.>;
Blade: LOL
Blade: Thank you.
Naimira: No problem.

Blade: What is your take on the recent zeroing-thing of Mephistopheles? Do you consider a suicide via hunters as an actual 'zeroing', or no?
Abandoned Toy: nopes

<BladeOfRayne> Inu! Goodie. Can I ask you a question?
<Inu> Mhm!
<BladeOfRayne> What is your take on the recent zeroing-thing of Mephistopheles? Do you consider a suicide via hunters as an actual 'zeroing', or no?
<Inu> I don't consider it an actual zeroing, I think zeroing is a element of battle, and a death by hunters is just what you said. A suicide.

Blade: What is your take on the recent zeroing-thing of Mephistopheles? Do you consider a suicide via hunters as an actual 'zeroing', or no?
Koz: were his bloodpints below 10?
Blade: No. I think they were about... 80 or so when he found the hunter?
Koz: no i mean
Koz: after he chased the hunter did he go to 10 or below?
Blade: He went to zero?
Koz: then i guess he's zeroed huh
Blade: Well, some people just don't consider it a 'zeroing'...
Koz: his BP's went to zero and he had to lose them
Koz: whether it's by a hunter or a weapon it's still gone
Koz: what's the difference
Blade: Good point! Thanks.

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Yes, I know I didn't get as many people as usual.. but... DISCUSS!

[Idony]

Even if he wasn't zeroed by the ones he was fighting with, he got zeroed because they were after him. They caused it indirectly. His zeroing, that is. So in a way, they killed him.
Yet far is it from me to tell someone how to take their own death... >.> His blood, after all.
But ya <.< Hunter, family, friends... Cause of death is still the same.

[Errah Dragolescu]

personally, I think he's got a crush on the necromancer... otherwise, why would he purposfully seek death by crossbow?

And honestly, who does the think he's kidding? Fighting pires who have more blood and weapons(?) than he can shake a stick at.... he's not even TRYING to build up bp. he's just being a pain in the ass like always.

[Boomerangele]

Personally I don't consider death by hunter or death by Stamina quests to be true zeroings and I would never require anyone from my clan to treat it as such and abide by any torpor rules. The difference, of course, is that they are normally fledglings and are not seeking solace in having no blood, but are rather, attempting to gain coin for powers or are seeking powers.

This is an interesting case. Meph is fully powered and his motives are/were entirely different. It is still a suicide and it took away a kill from his enemies. It is not a zeroing as no one else was involved, despite the fact the outcome was the same.

Was it cowardly? Perhaps. But no more cowardly than those in battle having their own family & friends zero them before the enemy could. The result is the same - the enemy is denied their kill and the pyre is left at zero. If you see honor in assisted suicide then you have to see honor in this action. To state otherwise is hypocritical.

The issue here will be whether torpor comes into play. Torpor is usually associated with assisted suicide in war but with a self-zeroing like this... well... I just don't know.

[Mephistophlese Sinclair]

Aug 24, 2008 8:39:53 GMT -8 Blade said:

Okay, how bout I just do these whenever during the week? >.>

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Blade: What is your take on the recent zeroing-thing of Mephistopheles? Do you consider a suicide via hunters as an actual 'zeroing', or no?
rykoth_obraonain: I would not count it as a zeroing but I'd capitalize on the hunter's actions and nail the bastard to a wall.
Blade: *snerk* Thank you for your insight.
rykoth_obraonain: Suicide is a coward's way out in my eyes.
Blade: Amen.

From my screenshots it would appear that Percelese got tha hunter bastard and 80BP to boot. How much cash is still unknown.

Aug 24, 2008 8:39:53 GMT -8 Blade said:

Blade: What is your take on the recent zeroing-thing of Mephistopheles? Do you consider a suicide via hunters as an actual 'zeroing', or no?
Koz: were his bloodpints below 10?
Blade: No. I think they were about... 80 or so when he found the hunter?
Koz: no i mean
Koz: after he chased the hunter did he go to 10 or below?
Blade: He went to zero?
Koz: then i guess he's zeroed huh
Blade: Well, some people just don't consider it a 'zeroing'... <~~~ Bias? ? ?
Koz: his BP's went to zero and he had to lose them
Koz: whether it's by a hunter or a weapon it's still gone
Koz: what's the difference
Blade: Good point! Thanks.

What kind of reporter attempts to change an interviewees opinion? ? ?

And FYI... Mephistopheles is a mindless thrall belonging to OI. My name is Mephistophlese. thankyouverymuchgbye

[Genevive Sinclair]

Eh...Meph's an ass. I was quite upset to hear that he chased a hunter. I would have gladly taken the KS on him and not as a "mercy" killing...but simply because I enjoy watching him bleed at my hand sometimes. I show no mercy toward Meph. And if someone wants him zeroed for a valid reason...hey I just might help out in that. He does need to have his ass put in check every once in a while. lol But seriously... I think he was stupid for commiting suicide. I wouldn't want to go out that way.

However...back on topic... I don't view his suicide as a zeroing that calls for torpor. I believe torpor is a personal matter...you either believe in it or you don't. You are no less honorable if you don't abide by it. The way I see it a lot of pires just try to send another to torpor so that pire will STFU. It doesn't change anything really. Yeah the target loses all his/her blood and the attackers have wasted coin and weapons just so they can continue to run their mouths and bash the target with out feed back from him/her. That's just petty and a waste of time IMO. And in this case, the target was being attacked by a group of bullies who would never have the balls to attack another pire if he/she was clanned or had a big family.

I get the family/clan unity thing...but when you deliberately single out 2 pires just for the fact that they 1.) call you on your bull shit 2.) aren't clanned and 3.) have signifigantly lower BPs than you. Well that's just pathetic. They didn't deserve a KS on him. I may not be happy with the way Meph went about getting to zero, but I'm glad that the attackers were cheated of their KS.

[Blade]

Aug 24, 2008 12:16:35 GMT -8 Mephistophlese Sinclair said:

Aug 24, 2008 8:39:53 GMT -8 Blade said:

Okay, how bout I just do these whenever during the week? >.>

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Blade: What is your take on the recent zeroing-thing of Mephistopheles? Do you consider a suicide via hunters as an actual 'zeroing', or no?
rykoth_obraonain: I would not count it as a zeroing but I'd capitalize on the hunter's actions and nail the bastard to a wall.
Blade: *snerk* Thank you for your insight.
rykoth_obraonain: Suicide is a coward's way out in my eyes.
Blade: Amen.

From my screenshots it would appear that Percelese got tha hunter bastard and 80BP to boot. How much cash is still unknown.

Aug 24, 2008 8:39:53 GMT -8 Blade said:

Blade: What is your take on the recent zeroing-thing of Mephistopheles? Do you consider a suicide via hunters as an actual 'zeroing', or no?
Koz: were his bloodpints below 10?
Blade: No. I think they were about... 80 or so when he found the hunter?
Koz: no i mean
Koz: after he chased the hunter did he go to 10 or below?
Blade: He went to zero?
Koz: then i guess he's zeroed huh
Blade: Well, some people just don't consider it a 'zeroing'... <~~~ Bias? ? ?
Koz: his BP's went to zero and he had to lose them
Koz: whether it's by a hunter or a weapon it's still gone
Koz: what's the difference
Blade: Good point! Thanks.

What kind of reporter attempts to change an interviewees opinion? ? ?

And FYI... Mephistopheles is a mindless thrall belonging to OI. My name is Mephistophlese. thankyouverymuchgbye

I'm sorry I misspelled your name.

And no, that wasn't bias. Some people don't consider it a zeroing, and I was merely informing him of that.

kthnxstfu

[Mephistophlese Sinclair]

Aug 24, 2008 16:27:22 GMT -8 Blade said:

I'm sorry I misspelled your name.

And no, that wasn't bias. Some people don't consider it a zeroing, and I was merely informing him of that.

kthnxstfu

Ty for acknowledging your error. that is the first step in improving yourself.

Did you inform anyone that some do not consider it a zeroing? And BTW. I will give Syphs the credit for that zeroing in a general sense. Had it not been for their tenacity, I would still be a li'l fatter and hittable by anyone else that wants to train a n00b student or two.

Ya coulda asked the leader of syphs and me what she and I thought about it. But goin to the sources seems a bit foreign these days.

kthnxsmfd

[tetragrammaton]

Aug 24, 2008 17:19:01 GMT -8 Mephistophlese Sinclair said:

Ya coulda asked the leader of syphs and me what she and I thought about it. But goin to the sources seems a bit foreign these days.

Maybe she didn't give a shit about what you had to say. Can't say I blame her....

[Blade]

Aug 24, 2008 17:19:01 GMT -8 Mephistophlese Sinclair said:

Ya coulda asked the leader of syphs and me what she and I thought about it. But goin to the sources seems a bit foreign these days.

I do these to show what the people of the city as a whole think about questions. It is NOT an interview nor a bitchfest, and that's what it would have become if I had asked EITHER of you.

Also, I couldn't care less 'bout yer opinion. ;D

[daly]

Aug 24, 2008 16:27:22 GMT -8 Blade said:

Aug 24, 2008 12:16:35 GMT -8 Mephistophlese Sinclair said:

From my screenshots it would appear that Percelese got tha hunter bastard and 80BP to boot. How much cash is still unknown.




What kind of reporter attempts to change an interviewees opinion? ? ?

And FYI... Mephistopheles is a mindless thrall belonging to OI. My name is Mephistophlese. thankyouverymuchgbye

I'm sorry I misspelled your name.

And no, that wasn't bias. Some people don't consider it a zeroing, and I was merely informing him of that.

kthnxstfu

I kind of have to agree with the moron, Rayne. I don't see it as a zeroing if the hunter got to him. No one got a killshot, the hunter did. I find Lust's remark completely retarded, and I honestly don't think that it should be able to have bragging rights about him being zeroed. The man died by a hunter. We all have in the past.

That being said, I'd like to throw in my opinion:

As much as I think of this Sinclair fellow as an utter fail... He wasn't zeroed. He got beat by a hunter, and that's not something I'll take lightly as well. We -are- vampires. We shouldn't laugh at one of our own being zeroed by a hunter, seeing as they would do the same to all of us without hesitation.

To the moron: Make things easier on yourself and stop giving them a reason to bash you. Keep them guessing and shut up.

[Blade]

Aug 26, 2008 20:24:54 GMT -8 daly said:

I kind of have to agree with the moron, Rayne. I don't see it as a zeroing if the hunter got to him. No one got a killshot, the hunter did.

I wasn't saying it was my personal opinion, just that some people think of it as a zeroing, and some don't. I was merely throwing out other opinions, since Koz didn't quite understand my question.

To everyone: NONE OF THE REPLIES WERE MY PERSONAL OPINION, NOR WERE THEY INFLUENCED BY ME.

[daly]

Aug 27, 2008 12:12:54 GMT -8 Blade said:

Aug 26, 2008 20:24:54 GMT -8 daly said:

I kind of have to agree with the moron, Rayne. I don't see it as a zeroing if the hunter got to him. No one got a killshot, the hunter did.

I wasn't saying it was my personal opinion, just that some people think of it as a zeroing, and some don't. I was merely throwing out other opinions, since Koz didn't quite understand my question.

To everyone: NONE OF THE REPLIES WERE MY PERSONAL OPINION, NOR WERE THEY INFLUENCED BY ME.

*Hands BladeOfRayne a box of chocolates* I refuse to buy maxi-pads. Calm the fuck down.

[Blade]

I am calm. -__-

[Mephistophlese Sinclair]

I see. So if someone doesn't answer you the way you think, then obviously they do not understand the question. Gotcha Did you throw out other opinions that maybe some do consider it a zero to those who believed it wasn't? I didn't think so. That is why I think it was bias
kthnxsmfd