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Post by CG Dragonfly on Nov 28, 2009 11:32:21 GMT -8
Disclaimer: Not saying this because I know Dan Out of Character or because of having a character sired to his character.
I notice around here that many complain about a clique-ish environment among players. This is what it is, you disagree or dislike what someone says and say 'Stop'. I see five to six pages in the banner thread of other players telling one to not charge or that they aren't original, yet they aren't told to stop by the thread maker. I thought the banner thread was a positive one to allow everyone who wanted a voice on a banner or two to have one.
Don't play these little games where only those who you think have 'contributed' or have been friendly with you are the ones who deserve to tell other players what to do or not do. Player to player interaction should be positive and encourage more open communication. It should not make others feel unwanted, neglected or angry. Remember that please.
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Post by Jett on Nov 28, 2009 11:47:56 GMT -8
Why should the thread maker do anything about it? It isn't their responsibility to make sure that everything that is said in the thread is civil and acceptable. That's what moderators do, though it should probably be the people themselves given that we're all, hopefully, sensible human beings. I don't see how this in any way lays on Dee's shoulders, however.
Also, if you had a problem with her having not said anything about any of this until a few hours ago, I'd suggest you PM'd her rather than threw out a rather personal thread telling her "Not to play these little games" and being generally condescending. It's just common courtesy, which seems to be something you're asking for in regards to those you know.
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Post by CG Dragonfly on Nov 28, 2009 11:50:38 GMT -8
Wasn't condescending and if you've looked at the thread, she called Dan out for his comments to Jace. She also said to take it elsewhere, this is elsewhere.
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Post by Vex on Nov 28, 2009 11:52:30 GMT -8
Because his comments were completely out of line. The discussion is over in that thread. Why'd you have to drag it out over here?
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Post by Damiana Jones on Nov 28, 2009 11:55:45 GMT -8
Oh. Please don't start drama for me OOC over this. You know what I did when the little "Charge or no charge" argument started. I said my piece and then I made a thread so that anyone who wanted to hash it out to be able to do it there. -And- I talked to some of the people who wanted say something about to and told them to go and say it in that thread so people wouldn't have to wade through pages of arguments.
Again, in this case since the man behind melkya decided he thought it was great to call Jace out in the banner thread, I said my piece and then I added that if someone wanted to continue the discussion they could either a) pm me or b) make a thread about the whole thing with graphic designers and banner makers.
So don't you dare try to make a thread about me and say I'm playing little games. You have a problem with me, I expect you to pm me. Do not put me on blast in a thread. I got no respect for people like that.
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Post by CG Dragonfly on Nov 28, 2009 11:56:11 GMT -8
I felt the need to comment m'dear. And since Dee had so nicely said to take it out of the thread, I did so.
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Post by Vex on Nov 28, 2009 12:00:53 GMT -8
Stuff like this is why I can't stand most RBC players. Everyone blows everything right the fuck out of proportion... Gawd.
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Post by Jett on Nov 28, 2009 12:01:10 GMT -8
Wasn't condescending and if you've looked at the thread, she called Dan out for his comments to Jace. She also said to take it elsewhere, this is elsewhere. "Don't play these little games" and "Remember that please" is pretty condescending. Perhaps you should read what you're typing aloud before you hit 'post'. And yeah, she called Dan out, but it isn't her job to be fair to everyone in the thread and make sure they all get an equal scolding. As I said, that's what moderators do. If they decide that Jace was being uncivil or harsh or what ever, I'm sure they'll mention it, but otherwise it's just discussion. That's all. Dee is free to pick which ever side she chooses to. As Dee said, she had asked people to take the discussion over copying styles etc. to another thread, not to start a whole thread whining about her not calling somebody out. That's simply not fair on her, or anybody else in this community.
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Post by CG Dragonfly on Nov 28, 2009 12:01:49 GMT -8
It wasn't directed at anyone specific, Dee. I saw others also tell Dan that he should shut up since he hadn't put up a banner yet.
Wasn't trying to offend anyone, just remind everyone that it was a positive thread and that player interactions should be the same. So much for that I guess. >.>;
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Post by Jett on Nov 28, 2009 12:03:54 GMT -8
lol, just lol
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Post by Damiana Jones on Nov 28, 2009 12:04:33 GMT -8
No. You're being rude. There's a difference in commenting than just blatantly putting some one blast. I said nothing about him contributing to the banner. If he wants to, he can. But don't stay things that should have been said in a pm in a thread like that. No one should have to wade through pages of arguments. And that would have started an argument. You don't know what I was doing behind the scenes with the whole argument last night. I was telling people not to argue. So don't come at me with bullshit.
Jace can account for this, I have no problem with telling him not to argue or to take it somewhere else.
You should have pmed me if you had a problem with what I said. Because this thread as nothing to do with the topic at hand. You didn't like what I said, instead of pming me, you thought you could make a thread, talk about me (though you didn't use my name, everyone and their mothers know it was directed toward me), and think it was justified.
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Post by Vex on Nov 28, 2009 12:06:45 GMT -8
Dee tells me to can it all the time. I usually listen. >.>
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Post by CG Dragonfly on Nov 28, 2009 12:37:28 GMT -8
I'm sorry I didn't spend my holiday snooping around an internet forum to comment on a situation like that. I actually spent more than an hour today sitting here trying to word it correctly so it wouldn't come off like I was badmouthing someone. Then after that I waited another half hour to make sure it still sounded right. The original post was edited about five times just so all snarky comments were gone. I was being rather nice and not naming direct names.
There was more than just you, Dee, commenting back to Dan if you take a look at the thread.
If anyone was offended by me having an opinion on an event that seemed out of place to me, I'm sorry. If you're offended by me commenting today to express it in a way that didn't clutter up the banner thread with more discussion that isn't banner related, I'm sorry.
If you want to toss me out of the banner thread and whatever for having an opinion that isn't like yours, you're free to do so.
Now since I got to voice my opinion on the topic, I'm done with it.
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Post by Vex on Nov 28, 2009 12:45:13 GMT -8
I'm sorry I didn't spend my holiday snooping around an internet forum to comment on a situation like that. Okay, I get you're trying to be inoffensive, but... you fail at it, Courtney. Pretty bad. In your first line of that post, you managed to basically take a jab at any American who spent a portion of their Thanksgiving (I think) day online. Thankfully, I'm not American, but... I'm sure that's pretty offensive to some people. ETA: Dee's not a mod and even mods cannot kick someone from a specific thread. Even if she could, she wouldn't. Anyway, you're allowed to have your own opinion, but... see, your wording is what makes or breaks the opinion. I'm shit at wording things right and people always assume my tone is condescending or derogatory, and it isn't. I'm just in a hurry to type up said opinion and get out the door.
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Post by Promethius on Nov 28, 2009 13:05:09 GMT -8
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