Merovingian Patriarch speaks

[Mephistophlese Sinclair]

Aug 8, 2008 15:03:56 GMT -8 - Acheron - said:

The thing I'd like everyone to know and understand is that Ordo Illuminati takes no delight in zeroing another vampire regardless of the reason.
Whenever something like this happens, we always take every measure possible to make contact with the offending pire.
We prefer to take a diplomatic position and will gladly accept a sincere apology and reasonable explanation.
Furthermore , we would also be willing to let it be water under the bridge if the vampire in question would express a willingness to learn and grow in the ways of the city. We would most certainly be willing to consider them for our school.
The city is a tough place with many dynamics in play. There are many reason for such an occurrence to have taken place.
Things are rarely what they seem but we like to give the benefit of the doubt whenever possible.
This being said....if and when all possible attempts at diplomacy have been exhausted, we will exorcise our sovereign right to defend our membership from any and all unjust and unwarranted attacks.
I understand that philosophies will differ in this kind of a situation.
We feel it is important to protect our members and the sovereignty of the clan at large.
Some will declare that such force is never justified.
To this notion I cannot disagree more. I applaud The Sun clan and Boomerangle for their consistency in establishing themselves as the Switzerland of Ravenblack city but this is not who or what we are.
We believe in a strong defense and being ready and willing to use it in a just and controlled manner.
I don't think this makes us good, evil, neutral , independent or anything. We simply believe that any clan who wishes to thrive in the city must have a strong defensive force at the ready for all incursions small or large.

With the recent zeroing of tool, I just gotta wonder what happened to these good Merovingian "ladies"? Did they even attempt to reason with tool before they gangbanged him? Anyone even ask for necro or an apology? Or did they indeed react like brute thugs? Who knows. Maybe I'm just a little bit biased.

I couldn't help notice that in the obit, the merovidiots were there immediatly to tell him to rest well. Is that their way of gloating over the death of their target? The whole scene seemd very unsavory to say the least.

I am not surprised that not even one of them said "Hold up. Shouldn't we investigate this before we go off and kill someone?". This is one of the terrible results of a herd mantality. One vamp says kill it and the rest just go into a blind frenzy. Logic and reason escape their vacuous and insipidous minds.



Words ain't nothin
unless you got somethin to say.
The meaning has no truth
unless the price is paid
Feelins aren't really felt
unless the point is made

Think for yourself by Skatenigs

[JokerofLust]

Actually, I did go and ask everyone. Got the whole story, then went and helped in because in my belief what was done was justified. So, before you go running off at the mouth again and questioning the Merovingian ladies, take a step back and pull that stick out of your anus thinking that you know everything that was going on.

What happened, happened and I'm not dipping again into this because -you- find yourself in the need to know everything that has nothing to do with you, when you don't even have yourself in check.

So, just because you don't know what really happened, and just because we have more tact than to disclose why we did what we did, doesn't mean that we didn't do it for a reason well worth the cause. So you can take this shit and shove it where the sun don't shine.

B.T.W

We were there first to tell him "Rest Well" because we should be the ones to say it, since we're the ones that basically sent him there in the first place.

So again, before you find something about us that's "unsavory" to -your- liking; again, take a step back and see who the hell gives even a half of a damn firstly. Secondly, see if anyone cares what your idea of "unsavory" is. Because from my standpoint, it means little to nothing. You think we're unsavory to your liking? Great, that means we're amazing. (:

[Katastrophe St. John-Talon]

Aug 29, 2008 12:33:46 GMT -8 Mephistophlese Sinclair said:

With the recent zeroing of tool, I just gotta wonder what happened to these good Merovingian "ladies"? Did they even attempt to reason with tool before they gangbanged him? Anyone even ask for necro or an apology? Or did they indeed react like brute thugs? Who knows. Maybe I'm just a little bit biased.

I couldn't help notice that in the obit, the merovidiots were there immediatly to tell him to rest well. Is that their way of gloating over the death of their target? The whole scene seemd very unsavory to say the least.

I am not surprised that not even one of them said "Hold up. Shouldn't we investigate this before we go off and kill someone?". This is one of the terrible results of a herd mantality. One vamp says kill it and the rest just go into a blind frenzy. Logic and reason escape their vacuous and insipidous minds.


Words ain't nothin
unless you got somethin to say.
The meaning has no truth
unless the price is paid
Feelins aren't really felt
unless the point is made

Think for yourself by Skatenigs

Just thought I'd make that obvious for everyone.

I assisted with TooL's zeroing after he made the first hit. Please keep in mind that while words were exchanged on both sides, that TooL threw the first weapon. Does that justify my involvement? No.

I became involved when he insulted Starr's family, thus insulting me in the process. As Joker had already noted somewhere else, don't believe all of what you see in the papers. There were words exchanged and things said that will probably never appear in the papers, simply because it's no one's business.

I am not speaking on behalf of all Merovingians here, but I am speaking for the part that I had in it. Make of it what you will because that seems to be the way of the city, regardless.

[Jaenelle]

For the love of...

Why can't you just keep this stuff to yourself Mephistophlese, why must you broadcast it to the entire city?
Everyone is aware that you really rather dislike these guys, but seriously, must you make that public everytime you think you've got a chance at it?

[Genevive Sinclair]

Grrr... Why Meph? Why? Seriously...your dislike for them is well known and needn't be reiterated almost daily. Yes they seem to contradict themselves a lot, but I'm sure every subscriber here can read and form their own opinion. Let it be love...let it be.

[Jaenelle]

Aug 29, 2008 17:43:42 GMT -8 Genevive Sinclair said:

Grrr... Why Meph? Why? Seriously...your dislike for them is well known and needn't be reiterated almost daily. Yes they seem to contradict themselves a lot, but I'm sure every subscriber here can read and form their own opinion. Let it be love...let it be.

Mephistophlese, wives are smart smart people at times.
Do remember to listen to them?

[Errah Dragolescu]

*shakes her head*
You ought to listen to your wife more Meph.

[Mephistophlese Sinclair]

OK, now this is fantastic. Tool is here and can answer a few questions.

1. Why did you throw the first HW?
2. Did the one you hit or their superiors contact you or your matriarch about necro?
3. Did anyone attempt to come to negotiate a peacefull resolution?
4. Did the one you hit know that you were not clanned?
5. How many did you attack and how many retaliated against you?
6. Did you have anyone attack with you before you were ganged up on?

Lemme see if my guess is right. Here are what I think the answers will be.

1. Because Van threatened your chylde with Holy water and it was a preemptive strike.
2. No.
3. No.
4. Yes
5. Tool attacked the one who threatened him and they came back with half a dozen pires.
6. No.

[TooL]

Let me be the first to reply to this Meph, you are indeed correct.

And no, I did not insult starreagle's family, the comment was directed to Van and below.

Nobody at all contacted myself, my patriarch Janus, or my matriarch Jocelyn, Janus is sleeping, as is Jocelyn, so I am first in command until they return. Should someone had contacted me, they may have understood more, than just taken Van's word on it.

Meph has a very good point, but I do not have any issues with the majority of the Merovingian line, as it is also part of my family, however removed it may be.

Next time you decide to attack someone, try getting both sides before you strike or gang up on them.

[Mephistophlese Sinclair]

OK Tool now here is where I will have to come down on you just a bit. After all, fair is fair.

You probably should not have attacked first. I would've recomended that you talked to Vans sire or clan leader about the threats against your chylde. Now you can as a lone pire attack a single pire if you choose. But it usually isn't so wise to do so. But then again Gevurah has said that they only resort to violence as a last resort. So, I suppose you could have assumed that a single HW would get the attention of vans sire or clan leader, and from there negotiate necro or an apology or whatever.

So much for assumptions, right?

[Lyric]

Not for nothing or anything, but...
Vanadesse is a master vampire, with no sire.
Just an observation. Given that people seem to think TooL had meant to insult Vanadesse's lineage...as in her former[/b] lineage. That however, obviously from his own words, isn't the case at all. Then again, people like to assume things far beyond what's actually going on and no amount of truth will change that.[/color]

[TooL]

Assumptions aside. I thought it obvious that before declaring all out war on one person, you should try and find out why that happened.
Anyway, I'm done with all of the people that naturally took her side without asking why, especially a couple people who called themselves friends.
You know who you are.

[starreagle]

Aug 31, 2008 2:13:56 GMT -8 Lyric said:

Not for nothing or anything, but...
Vanadesse is a master vampire, with no sire.
Just an observation. Given that people seem to think TooL had meant to insult Vanadesse's lineage...as in her former

[/b] lineage. That however, obviously from his own words, isn't the case at all. Then again, people like to assume things far beyond what's actually going on and no amount of truth will change that.[/color][/quote]

FYI, she was in the lineage and was severed there after attacks had begun. I was the master pire. I later that eve had taken maj. as my sire. So when he was insulting it was indeed my line because Van was in it at the time.

[Lyric]

Be that as it may, whether or not she was your childe at the time, TooL hadn't intended to insult you. Or your new lineage. From his own words, he had issue with Vanadesse and her childer. Not her sire or above. *lifts one shoulder in a light shrug* Think what you will, the incident is over and not at all worth the trouble of continuing any further from here.

[Blade]