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Post by daly on Dec 9, 2008 22:31:36 GMT -8
1.) Suck my dick. 2.) I asked your sire to cease the attacks because I didn't want to step in. Threats came in after my attack, which, they are still coming out. 3.) It'll take alot more than your pretty princess faggot shit to take me out of this city, and it will take a hell of alot more than your moronic brother who has Kiss-ass-syndrome constantly, to remove me completely.
You want to play these games with me, you'll accept my duel. You want to be a pack of cowards with nothing but assraping mindless games, then continue to waste your coin and hit me.
Just know one thing... You -will- be in pain.
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Post by Vex on Dec 9, 2008 23:07:15 GMT -8
I fail to see how anyone feels they have the right to enforce Torpor on another... but that's just me.
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Post by Elektra on Dec 9, 2008 23:17:55 GMT -8
You're not alone, Vex. There have always been non-resters in the city along with the resting vamps.
The only time when people usually jump in to re-zero a pire is when they've broken their torpor - willingly - after it's been publicly announced in the papers.
Personally, I feel it's gone too far. Even for someone who enjoys bloodshed. *shakes her head*
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Post by black_dragonet on Dec 10, 2008 0:56:36 GMT -8
I both agree, and disagree... Yes, it's probably gone too far, and zeroing Daly for being Daly is excessive, all the more since he's been attacked before he actually attacked. Daly has an aggressive mouth, but is less foolish than his mouth might suggest sometimes. However... As it's been stated, a HW thrown by a 200 BP vampire does as much damage as a one thrown by a blood deity. As long as a vampire issues attack threats, I feel they can be considered a warring faction. I'd not necessarily attack them, actually probably not, yet I understand why some would. In my former clan, we had a story the like, where a vampire would hit a clan member each time he got over 200. We ended up keeping him at zero daily or sometimes twice daily for nine month, before he got bored and chose another goal for his unlife... As long as threats are issued, I don't really see how this can end. However, I tend to dislike when this is a several against one situation...
Regarding the torpor issue. Of course noone can force someone to take torpor. However, the same that someone is entitled to take torpor, or not, the other side is entitled to cease attacks, or not. The ony case where it's considered rude is when the attacked states he's torporing and the attacker keeps attacking.
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Post by Moons on Dec 10, 2008 9:30:33 GMT -8
I wanted to first thank you, black_dragonet, for trying to look at this situation from both sides, and I agree very much with your insight into the topic at hand. The utter truth, despite what outside sources may have said, is that Daly was threatening to attack and fight. I am not one to post archives of Cell conversations in daily publications, but it will suffice to say that he was threatening to “Fuck up” us far before we ever touched him. And, as it’s been said, Holy Water is Holy Water; loss of blood is loss of blood. I respect that Daly is known for his mouth, and I will even agree that he can be a very knowing man when he wants to be, but last night he did not show that side of himself.
Most of last night, for hours, Pulse and I worked with Persephone to try and make it clear that we did not want to kill him. In fact, the two of us would have much rather not involved him at all, but he forced his way into the situation by tossing around threats and trying to involve our sire in something she had no want or need to be involved in. After much time working with Persephone, it was made clear to Pulse and I that Daly was not going to be taking torpor, and so we invited him in to discuss things. He spent the entire time yelling obscenities at us. He tried to make us agree to a duel where in he’d have necroed up to 2K blood and we would thus fight him. Quite frankly, neither Pulse nor I saw any gain that would come from a duel fashioned as such, Daly himself said there was no honor in such a duel.
My brother and I presented a simple plan all through the night which could very easily have been taken, and was not. We told Daly a multitude of times that we just wanted peace, and that we’d stop hitting both him and Keyi if he’d give us that, to which he retorted more obscene language and childish behavior. In the end, Pulse and I decided that we did not want a duel, but we also told Daly that so long as he leaves us be, we won’t be attacking either him or his former childe. I can only hope that he’ll take the peace that we’ve offered and be happy with it.
Note: Some of the details have been skimmed over, due to the length of the conversations last night as well as to keep the brevity of the words written here. If any should like further detail, please contact me via letter (PM). Thank-you.
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Post by daly on Dec 10, 2008 10:13:29 GMT -8
I will not be accepting your peace.
You can not throw an egg at a bull, and expect to scream "Peace" and expect the bull to not kick your ass.
And the things screamed lastnight? Those were because I had to repeat myself to you morons atleast four times.
If normal talking doesn't work, people, scream. Sometimes their skulls are just too thick.
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Post by ◞◯◟ on Dec 10, 2008 12:01:11 GMT -8
You will end this now, tyger. She had legitimate points, and when she was provided her answers. She took it gracefully. I recommend you follow her example. I know how nasty Wynds punishments can be if she puts her mind to it. Now sit your ass down and be a good kitty. I recommend that you not tell anyone what to do when you have no authority over them. ;D
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Post by Saikeria Moore on Dec 10, 2008 12:50:01 GMT -8
I will not be accepting your peace. You can not throw an egg at a bull, and expect to scream "Peace" and expect the bull to not kick your ass. And the things screamed lastnight? Those were because I had to repeat myself to you morons atleast four times. If normal talking doesn't work, people, scream. Sometimes their skulls are just too thick. I haven't read any of this crap But that was a lame analogy.
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Post by seyda on Dec 11, 2008 7:40:10 GMT -8
I will not be accepting your peace. You can not throw an egg at a bull, and expect to scream "Peace" and expect the bull to not kick your ass. And the things screamed lastnight? Those were because I had to repeat myself to you morons atleast four times. If normal talking doesn't work, people, scream. Sometimes their skulls are just too thick. Then will you kindly shut the fuck up and commence to being the big giant bull and kicking my grandchildes' asses? You're boring the fucking SHIT out of me.
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Post by Lisastrata on Dec 11, 2008 10:25:58 GMT -8
*facepalms behind her desk*
Ok...this issue has been solved...at least in the scope of my rant. I got the detail now...people, stop letting your damned tempers control you please. If you wanna duel, then fucking duel, if you don't...just say Nay
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Moons
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Post by Moons on Dec 11, 2008 14:23:38 GMT -8
My brother and I presented a simple plan all through the night which could very easily have been taken, and was not. We told Daly a multitude of times that we just wanted peace, and that we’d stop hitting both him and Keyi if he’d give us that, to which he retorted more obscene language and childish behavior. In the end, Pulse and I decided that we did not want a duel, but we also told Daly that so long as he leaves us be, we won’t be attacking either him or his former childe. I can only hope that he’ll take the peace that we’ve offered and be happy with it.
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Post by Sophia on Dec 11, 2008 17:04:14 GMT -8
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Post by TygerNight on Dec 11, 2008 19:22:38 GMT -8
I just got to ask one thing. Tyger, why do you insist on bringing Lisa's business into this thread when she's stating an opinion about a situation that has nothing to do what she's done with her blood over the last year or so? Seems someone doesn't know how to stay on topic. Hmm? Feeling a bit ADD at the moment? That said, everything that has happened is pretty stupid. And in all honesty. Hitting Daly won't make him shut up. It's never made him shut up. Nor will it ever make him shut up. I'm ADD every minute of the day. You didn't know? I insist because I've been informed, and not just once, that since Lisa's been back, she's brought my name into shit I have nothing to do with either. Over and over. I haven't spoken to her in nearly a year, and she still can't think of someone besides me? Come on. So yes, I insist. Also, just because I'm me. >.> Also, this is the 'Ramble' section as was pointed out to me; I'm just rambling. O.O
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Post by TygerNight on Dec 11, 2008 19:29:14 GMT -8
You will end this now, tyger. She had legitimate points, and when she was provided her answers. She took it gracefully. I recommend you follow her example. I know how nasty Wynds punishments can be if she puts her mind to it. Now sit your ass down and be a good kitty. I recommend that you not tell anyone what to do when you have no authority over them. ;D *chuckles* Well said. And to be frank, very, very few people have any authority over me at all, and that's only because I let them. My wife, Wyndcryer, can usually rein me in, but not always. My sire, Shaarinya, can also usually rein me in. But again; not always. Kaio, much as he makes me laugh, and much as my wife likeshim, does not fit into those categories. Besides which, telling me to sit down and be a good little kitty is in actuality fruitless and a direct challenge to my obstinance. >.>
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Post by Uriah Solus on Dec 11, 2008 19:29:17 GMT -8
I don't give a fuck if it's a ramble section or not. Do you not know how to ramble on topic? Got a problem with Lisa, ramble it off in its own thread instead of a thread that has nothing to do with your stupid feelings about Lisa and her being gone for almost a year.
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