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Post by rel on Apr 29, 2009 11:47:53 GMT -8
There seems to be a misconception that just because I may happen to profess humanistic morals sometimes being antiquated, I am not against commitment, monogamy, faithfulness, etc. Far from it. I hope that all those who get intimate know who the other is prior to binding, as I hedge to bet that many severences occur based on one or the other's version of what 'cheating' means.
What I continually DO have an issue with is those that profess this type of moral high ground by labeling others based on their own beliefs. That is nonsense. If I can sit here and say - good for you, you want no flirting, no using sensuality to lure prey, no sharing blood with anyone other than a partner, no offering up your neck, no any of it? Good. I hope it works out. I honestly do. That if you DO dabble you're together so that there's no mistake about it. Or that they're not a jealous type when they watch you take a human. I'm not talking killing - a completely different rush - but the pulling of pints from their neck...
Instead of that, what I see are those vampires who absolutely believe that being the loudest proponents of who is deemed a slut. As if your view of that terminology is right. What is right? What is it based on? Your views. Only. Which is a ridiculous notion to place on others! It's like those who, when human, ran around trying trying to save others they deemed beneath them. If you use your morals as a human to judge others you're doing your kind a disservice. It isn't relevant. It's only relevant...to you.
So please - go forth and do what you do. I'll sit back and watch as those come together and sever over and over again, jumping from one to another instead of binding to a soul mate and owning who you are. You're a vampire. Let others be vampires and stop name calling with juvenile terms such as slut and whore.
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Elektra
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Post by Elektra on Apr 29, 2009 11:56:57 GMT -8
You're such a slut, rel. ;x
;D
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Post by rel on Apr 29, 2009 12:00:49 GMT -8
*grins* now, that is completely besides the point...
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Post by Louvain on Apr 30, 2009 0:14:13 GMT -8
Swingers DO seem happier.
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Post by black_dragonet on Apr 30, 2009 0:35:04 GMT -8
Well, to me, the main issue there is "say what you do, do what you say". I have no issues with you doing whatever you want, but you are not one claiming to be a "virgin", never having kissed anyone and such.
There are some who promise eternal faithfullness when binding, among which I count myself. Those ones forfeit the right to sleep with others. You don't want to be bound by such restrictions? don't make the promise.
I'll get on my high horse on the people who are sluts, the term not being negative to my eye, only if they said or promised they would not be. Calling Bambi for instance a slut wouldn't come to my mind. You don't go see Bambi and spend time with him if you are repulsed by sexual things. I mean, that boy IS sexual. You don't go see me if you want to have fun and enjoyable sex. You won't get it. Were you to get it, then you could and should get at me.
Males and females, the issue is not so much about how we behave, but how our deeds match with our words and responsibilities, to the partner first, to the others then.
Last: if there is "cheating" (which does not mean sleeping with other vampires, or whatever fun activity, but doing it when the partner does not agree) then it means that the binding isn't that stable and good. It should be seen as a diagnosis rather than a personal blow.
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Master Dracula
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Post by Master Dracula on Apr 30, 2009 2:50:35 GMT -8
Let's all swing
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Post by ravyne on Apr 30, 2009 8:22:50 GMT -8
My POV: we are vampires.. we left our human morals behind us the night we were turned. Of course, there are those who will resist the alluring qualities of being a vampire and try to cling to their human qualities as long as possible; however, vampires use every means available to them to gain their prey.. often meaning sexual wiles. They also do this among themselves to create alliances, friends, potential mates, potential blood siblings, etc. I don't like the word cheating.. detest the term "slut".. we are what we are.. sexual, alluring creatures of the night. We need an official sign that says "Once turned, check your human morals at the door before entering."
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Post by black_dragonet on Apr 30, 2009 8:47:00 GMT -8
Well... Is integrity "human morals"? Is trust "human morals"? I don't think so. Is sexual political correctness "human morals"? I think so. Only humans could bear with as much limitation as they inflict on themselves. Is sexual shyness, or lack of wish to go plant seed elsewhere "human morals"? I don't think so.
I don't care about using one's charm to get preys or friends, since me all do that more or less to lure our preys. Generally speaking, why promise that which you don't intend to hold?
I'm a tightass, others are sluts. So what? I'm pretty cool with my expletive, almost see it as a compliment. Rel's mightily sexy, and does not hide the fact that she's sharing. Some might call her a slut, a bitch, whatever... Well, I don't see the harm in the fact she's living up the choices she made, and isn't hiding, nor actually the harm in the word itself.
What I somehow fail to understand is why people associate the word, having sex with whoever one wants, and cheating.
Being a slut I can associate with having sex with whoever one wants, as the objectivation that your sex life is very active. I would see that as a positive trait were I to be as sexually driven as Bambi, for instance.
Why do you associate (general "you") having much sex with cheating... Theorically speaking, Rel having sex with me would be no cheating on her part, since she's not breaking any promise she made. It would on my side, since I promised Lady Ophy she would me my one and only. Still Theorically speaking, Rel having sex with Bambi would NOT be cheating, since both share. Hell, people, share your partners, or hold your word. It takes two to tango, and two to have enjoyable sex...
Drop your human morals and enjoy it, that is if you have not decided not to. The only limitation to our sexual drive should be our choice, our promises, not whatever stupid empty human view on a most enjoyable sport. There's no such thing as cheating as long as you're not breaking a word you've given to someone. No promise, no cheating, simple as that.
City sluts, thank you for existing and being true to your selves. City tightasses, thank you for existing and being true to your selves. Be proud of what and who you are. Do what you say, say what you do.
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Post by rel on Apr 30, 2009 9:48:23 GMT -8
well said.
It's the judgmental ideology on others that's my issue, not the personal code.
Yet, dabbling with the boy bits isn't me. I have my one and only. *beams grinning*
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Elektra
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Post by Elektra on Apr 30, 2009 12:54:13 GMT -8
*snickers at rel*
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Post by seyda on Apr 30, 2009 13:38:58 GMT -8
City tightasses, thank you for existing and being true to your selves. *tries to peek at my ass and fails* Uh, no problem?
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Post by Lameth on Apr 30, 2009 16:21:45 GMT -8
S'funny, I'm all judgemental like that and shit with the labeling and my wife loves me just fine with no plans nor even thoughts to ever sever, though that's probably because she's not a slut. ;D
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Post by Edan Adaire on Apr 30, 2009 16:47:31 GMT -8
Don't worry, Seyda. From the way it looks with your pants.... Its tight. But you'll have to go and ask Asmia for a more accurate opinion. --- And a more on-topic response: What amazes me...are most of those that are crying about their partner cheating the 'cheater' in the situation is KNOWN to sleep around a lot but yet, the other still bounds and when it comes out cries about it. OR The person who cries 'cheater!' has been known to do it themselves or later on it comes out that they've slept with others as well. So, yeah. Pretty much the same ol' drama. I agree with you, rel.
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Post by occamrazor on Apr 30, 2009 17:28:10 GMT -8
the whole controling what your partner does and who they spend their time with when they aren't with you has always kinda bugged me. I mean it would really be a big turn off for me if Alchemy told me what and who I could or could not do. ~shivers~ And I would never ever even consider doing that to him. Does that mean we don't love each other or that we don't have respect for each other? No. What it means is that we trust each other. We know that our bond is secure, so why feel insecure about it? I know this isn't the norm in the city amongst couples and even though my ideas are different I don't feel the need to look down on those that think differently. We're lustful creatures, thats a known thing. I agree with Edan, that some just like the drama of it all. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and all that. If your partner doesn't hold the same beliefs as you do, chances are it's not going to work out. Name calling, no matter what ones particular definition of the name in question is lame for the most part and really does no good anyways. And this doesn't mean that I haven't done so in the past nor does it mean I wont in the future. But, "slut" isn't an insult to me. I think sluts rock!
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Post by Wyndcryer St. John on Apr 30, 2009 17:55:24 GMT -8
Forever is a longgggg time.
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