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Post by ophelia Lokason on Jun 12, 2009 7:28:14 GMT -8
O.o But ALL black blooding is pretty obvious, lol Mmm, not quite what I meant. Bringing people into this game is fine, but thrall stacking or forum spamming is more of what I was talking about. Like quizzing, or whatever. Clone stacking, big no no. Spamming. Big no no. Quizzing. Not against RB's rules, just frowned upon by the general player. ~M
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Post by Majica on Jun 12, 2009 7:47:24 GMT -8
It was three years ago. Posting the conversation really wasn't necessary. (sorry..had to say it..I REALLY dislike conversations being posted, especially unnecessarily) Nor is calling Tejas by her former name when you know she's had it legally changed. You're being deliberately insulting and you're supposed to be above that. And no, I don't subscribe to the ...well so and so does it why can't I. I'm not a big believer in doing what others do, even if it's wrong, just because they did it first.
Lastly, thank you again for the information on the two mysterious vampires that have shown up recently. Doubtful we'll find out who they belong to, other than supposition and assumption >< but its just really a goddamn shame to see folks be so stupid when it comes to zero respect to another characters name.
~M Eh, it was necessary actually, cause it's the only language they seem to understand. As for her former name? I don't know that she's had it changed. I have been shown no proof that her names been changed at all. I mean seriously, if she's going to specifically lie to me about my asking her if this majica clone was hers or not, then when I show the proof that it IS, she suddenly changes her story and says.. 'oh, well, I was teaching my 8 year old daughter blah blah blah...'
I mean yeah, factual proof is necessary. Otherwise, it's just my word against hers. So she can say all she wants that her name has been legally changed, I however, don't believe it has. My opinion, she's a liar, and I base that on all the lies she's told to 'me' specifically over the last 5 years and that I've caught her in. So, should I believe her names been legally changed? *shrugs* I dunno.. but, until she can show that factual proof of otherwise, then I will continue to call her, OOC, by the name she told me she was.. Louann _______. And yes, I omitted her last name, which I do know, for the sake of privacy.
And you're welcome, I would have appreciated if someone had done the same for me. I highly frown on that sort of thing that we spoke about last night. Clones/thralls are often made in the likeness of another to cause problems or wreak intentional havoc. ((edited cause I missed a word))
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Post by Katastrophe St. John-Talon on Jun 12, 2009 8:02:10 GMT -8
The vampire coquette has drunk 2 pints of blood. Powers: None Location: Nightingale and 23rd coquette is sire to no other vampires. coquette's lineage runs as follows: tejas_dragon (26943), creperum (13936), NiFlhEiM (14962) and the master vampire UnicornDream (10930).
The vampire lady-ophelia has drunk 2 pints of blood. Powers: None Location: Oppression and 57th lady-ophelia is sire to no other vampires. lady-ophelia's lineage runs as follows: tejas_dragon (26943), creperum (13936), NiFlhEiM (14962) and the master vampire UnicornDream (10930).
Yeah, I thought it was cute, too. I suppose we can get those deleted.
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Post by Edan Adaire on Jun 12, 2009 8:51:40 GMT -8
Are you serious, Monica? You want proof that she changed her name legally before you'll stop calling Tejas by her former name? Okay.. are you sure you've passed the 5th grade? That is a pretty childish thing to say. We all know that TejasDragon and Arch as has been known both IC and OOC to ask for proof of things; so considering you say "its the only language they understand" and being extremely cocking about it, I think its pretty low. People in this game act like little 5th graders with things they say and do and right now, Monica, with statements like "I have been shown no proof that her names been changed at all." And then use the fact that she lied to about a clone as a excuse to continue calling her by a name that she isn't any longer legally; its real elementary. As for the clones, they're clones. Simple as that. They aren't your character and anyone who knows your character would know what you would do and wouldn't do, yes? So, what is seriously the big idea? And don't give me "they lied to be" bull...because I'd call it just that. Bullshit. We are all adults, or well most of us are anyway, we've been lied to before. Its life. Oh and anyone with a half a brain would have known that wasn't Archangel. 1) He doesn't goes into chats; doesn't even like his clan members to go into chats. 2) He would have sent a "messenger" into do deliver the message. Personal opinion, we all need to drop the grudges and move on. Yeah, yeah, so they keep going, and? What do you tell your kids when they were picked on at school and two year later the kid continues to harass your child? You tell 'em to snap back and degrade them every chance they get just because the other is still doing it? I'd really...really hope not. I think, we, speaking in general here, need to take a step back and think about what we would tell our child when it comes to situations like this.
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Post by Moons on Jun 12, 2009 9:14:35 GMT -8
Are you serious, Monica? You want proof that she changed her name legally before you'll stop calling Tejas by her former name? Okay.. are you sure you've passed the 5th grade? That is a pretty childish thing to say. We all know that TejasDragon and Arch as has been known both IC and OOC to ask for proof of things; so considering you say "its the only language they understand" and being extremely cocking about it, I think its pretty low. People in this game act like little 5th graders with things they say and do and right now, Monica, with statements like "I have been shown no proof that her names been changed at all." And then use the fact that she lied to about a clone as a excuse to continue calling her by a name that she isn't any longer legally; its real elementary. Are you really insulting another player? I mean I can understand certain circumstances wherein there's bad blood which can cause someone to say something to another in heat/anger/hatred, but really I don't see where comparing Monica to a child is either necessary to your argument or really supportive of it. OOC names are a very big deal, especially in a community such as ours, just as being able to trust the players behind the characters is important. Monica always knew "Louann" as the name for the person who plays Tejas, and considering the amount of accusations that both Louann and Ceasar have made about Monica, the lengths they've gone to to either circumvent her good reputation or drive others away from her within our community; I firmly belive she's well within her rights to question something as significant as a name. I know that I'd be asking questions if someone started claiming that they'd changed their name, and I'd be doing so for a multitude of reasons neither beginning nor ending with the legal issues that such would entail.
As for the rest, I've really not much to say. I think the overall tone of the post was rather combative and more than a bit condescending. Normally I don't post to these kinds of things, but really, I just see no reason to insult another player in the above manner, especially when there's no real warrant for such behaviour.
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Jun 12, 2009 9:29:54 GMT -8
I hope you don't think I'm trying to verbally attack you, but I think its wrong of you to demand or expect legal documentation from someone, given online no less just to prove they've taken some kind of legal action. It's not feasible nor safe to give that information out, though I'm sure if someone was so determined to get validation they could do research online. The way things are these days you could probably get any information you want on another person, sadly enough. I just think its a matter of personal respect to, if you're going to address someone by their name, doing so with the name they've stated repeatedly is actually theirs legally. You don't have a problem mocking Tejas in other threads for changing her name to match that of her vampires, yet you'll refuse to actually address her by that same name unless you're provided with legal proof because of your past history there. It should really only be one or the other, but its a bit shabby action wise to do one and then refuse to do the other. Again, I apologize if this makes you feel as though I'm trying to put you on some kind of defensive or something, but its a topic that's been kind of picking at the back of my mind when I've time to come around and I see it. ~M
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Post by Majica on Jun 12, 2009 9:53:11 GMT -8
I hope you don't think I'm trying to verbally attack you, but I think its wrong of you to demand or expect legal documentation from someone, given online no less just to prove they've taken some kind of legal action. It's not feasible nor safe to give that information out, though I'm sure if someone was so determined to get validation they could do research online. The way things are these days you could probably get any information you want on another person, sadly enough.
I just think its a matter of personal respect to, if you're going to address someone by their name, doing so with the name they've stated repeatedly is actually theirs legally. You don't have a problem mocking Tejas in other threads for changing her name to match that of her vampires, yet you'll refuse to actually address her by that same name unless you're provided with legal proof because of your past history there. It should really only be one or the other, but its a bit shabby action wise to do one and then refuse to do the other.
Again, I apologize if this makes you feel as though I'm trying to put you on some kind of defensive or something, but its a topic that's been kind of picking at the back of my mind when I've time to come around and I see it.
~M Hmm...
I certainly don't recall or demand expecting to see such documentation.. but if it's provided, then.. YAY? But don't expect me to just go at face value and believe it either. Cause I don't.
And Michelle, I don't recall ever, in any other thread, mocking her or giving her a hard time about her 'said' name change as you stated I did? If you'd like to point me in the direction of where I, personally, have ever said anything about her changing her legal name to match her vampire characters name and that I've mocked or made fun of her for doing so, then I would greatly appreciate it. Cause seriously... it didn't happen. And I really don't appreciate the insinuation.
And while you may wish to believe that she's changed her name, that is certainly your perogative. As I've clearly stated, the woman has lied to me way too many times and I simply choose to believe otherwise.
Anyhow... the point of my posting what I did, was not about her name change. It was about her being hyprocritical and complaining to RB about someone creating a thrall/likeness in Archangels name. The same thing she did to me years ago. So what? It's supposed to be ok back then, but not now?
And Bryan... jesus.. just grow up. Seriously.
So now... back on topic?
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Post by Edan Adaire on Jun 12, 2009 9:53:39 GMT -8
Are you serious, Monica? You want proof that she changed her name legally before you'll stop calling Tejas by her former name? Okay.. are you sure you've passed the 5th grade? That is a pretty childish thing to say. We all know that TejasDragon and Arch as has been known both IC and OOC to ask for proof of things; so considering you say "its the only language they understand" and being extremely cocking about it, I think its pretty low. People in this game act like little 5th graders with things they say and do and right now, Monica, with statements like "I have been shown no proof that her names been changed at all." And then use the fact that she lied to about a clone as a excuse to continue calling her by a name that she isn't any longer legally; its real elementary. Are you really insulting another player? I mean I can understand certain circumstances wherein there's bad blood which can cause someone to say something to another in heat/anger/hatred, but really I don't see where comparing Monica to a child is either necessary to your argument or really supportive of it. OOC names are a very big deal, especially in a community such as ours, just as being able to trust the players behind the characters is important. Monica always knew "Louann" as the name for the person who plays Tejas, and considering the amount of accusations that both Louann and Ceasar have made about Monica, the lengths they've gone to to either circumvent her good reputation or drive others away from her within our community; I firmly belive she's well within her rights to question something as significant as a name. I know that I'd be asking questions if someone started claiming that they'd changed their name, and I'd be doing so for a multitude of reasons neither beginning nor ending with the legal issues that such would entail.
As for the rest, I've really not much to say. I think the overall tone of the post was rather combative and more than a bit condescending. Normally I don't post to these kinds of things, but really, I just see no reason to insult another player in the above manner, especially when there's no real warrant for such behaviour. Now, Josh, you've known me a for a while as a player, I've never intentionally insulted anyone as a human. I don't think its wrong for me to say I believe if something she does or says is childish. After all, if I go back through her own posts I'm willing to bet that I can find a few times where she's called other's actions childish. I don't know where you are getting that I called her childish. I called her actions childish. But if the shoe fits.. so be it. As for OOC names being of importance? Um.. no, not really. Hell, there are a bunch of people whom I don't know their names nor do I really care to know them. If they want me to know, they will tell me. How does Monica really know her name was Louanne at all? Did Tejas show her birth certificate? Driver's license? I mean, be for real, Josh. If my tone struck you as being harsh, rude or whatever that is probably because you felt the conversation being directed to someone in particular. But it wasn't. Yeah, so the top half was directly to Monica but as for the second half, there are a handful of other players who do the exactly same thing they'd tell their child not to. Was it so wrong to point that fact out? Was it really that inappropriate to call those actions out? Perhaps, I'm out'a line being this has nothing really to do with me but I just think all this bickering back and forth bullshit, reminds me of Thaila' character and Archangel when they go tit-for-tat about who owns the title of Clan Capadocious. Its annoying and ridiculous. -- Edit -- For one, grow up? Me? Excuse me, Monica but I'm not the one that every time I turn around I have to say something hurtful to another player simply because I don't like 'em. And two, you can't go off topic and then be all like "oh lets get back on topic" when you've come up short handed.
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Jun 12, 2009 10:19:54 GMT -8
Uhh..Edan's player, I'm not sure what your point is, but when you start talking to Monica the way you are now, you should probably eat your own grow up suggestions first.
Monica, again, my apologies if I offended you. I will, when time allows, find the thread that I took as you, along with practically EVERYONE else, mocking Tejas and her husband for having changed their names to Tejas and Archangel. If it wasn't your intention to mock, apologies again, but that's certainly how it looked to me.
In hind sight, and in light of Edan's humans hostility, I will apologise for not bringing my thoughts about the whole Tejas and what you actually call her thing in private. I sometimes forget that other players can't always keep a conversation civil.
~M
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Post by Katastrophe St. John-Talon on Jun 12, 2009 10:41:36 GMT -8
I think the point of this thread has completely been lost.
ArchangeI was deleted. Period, the end. Sirena, can you lock this before MORE unnecessary insults start flying?
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Post by Uriah Solus on Jun 12, 2009 10:43:55 GMT -8
I for one am just sitting here like..."Are you guys really getting hostile over this?"
Enough is enough already. You treat those two like they are celebrities or something.
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Post by rel on Jun 12, 2009 10:56:15 GMT -8
Ugh. Who cares what someone else did to you...the general you cause we know how THAT goes...
You have a choice on how you respond, how you hold yourself, what you deem appropriate and inappropriate. What someone else did isn't relevant to what YOU do. Especially here in a place where some stay IC always and NEVER cross into OOC!
Seriously - sure, I'd love to know who had rel sexing up total strangers in the ghettos and who hacked into my personal account to start ooc relationships with those I don't even know, but would I go there and do the same thing to someone else? Why would I do that? Do I want to be seen as someone who WOULD do that regardless of what someone did to me? Why would I use what THEY did as an free pass to do the same thing? That reasoning is so completely faulty it's mind boggling.
creating silly alt names under those who you're friendly with is a old pass time forever. you laugh then watch it die off. it's an ooc act. hell, sometimes you wait to see if they can figure out that it's you. but that's not the same thing as this. they don't even compare.
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Post by Katastrophe St. John-Talon on Jun 12, 2009 10:56:46 GMT -8
I for one am just sitting here like..."Are you guys really getting hostile over this?" Enough is enough already. You treat those two like they are celebrities or something. Britney and K-Fed? *snickers* Sorry, I'm done. Modified for quote.
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Post by Master Dracula on Jun 12, 2009 12:25:00 GMT -8
Let's just all go do some AA/tejas scrolling and get over it? ;D
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Post by Majica on Jun 12, 2009 12:52:09 GMT -8
After all, if I go back through her own posts I'm willing to bet that I can find a few times where she's called other's actions childish. I don't know where you are getting that I called her childish. I called her actions childish. But if the shoe fits.. so be it. Please... by all means Bryan - you have my permission to do exactly that. Go find those posts where you say I, or even Majica for that matter, called anyone's actions childish. IC or OOC even. I'd like to see that myself. Yeah, so the top half was directly to Monica but as for the second half, there are a handful of other players who do the exactly same thing they'd tell their child not to. Was it so wrong to point that fact out? Was it really that inappropriate to call those actions out? And just what actions exactly would that be Byran? I see you keep repeating yourself, but please... as I stated before.. I am a factual person - so I'd like you to show the proof of your words. By all means, go ahead... show us all my insultative words to other players. Perhaps, I'm out'a line being this has nothing really to do with me but I just think all this bickering back and forth bullshit, reminds me of Thaila' character and Archangel when they go tit-for-tat about who owns the title of Clan Capadocious. Its annoying and ridiculous. Yes, 'here' you are being out of line and you're right, it IS redicilious but you know what Bryan... you helped to take it to that level. And look... I said all that without being insultive. -- Edit --
For one, grow up? Me? Excuse me, Monica but I'm not the one that every time I turn around I have to say something hurtful to another player simply because I don't like 'em.
And two, you can't go off topic and then be all like "oh lets get back on topic" when you've come up short handed. "I" didn't take it off topic. What I posted WAS on topic Bryan. It was completely on topic. I did however try, once it was derailed to off topicness, tried to get it back on topic again. Sooo.. perhaps you should go back and look the materials over again Hmmm?
And again... you have my permission Bryan. Please.. show me exactly what and where it is that you claim I did this cause I'd certainly love to see where it is you're talking about. And feel free to do it not only about me, Monica.. but as my character Majica as well.
Thanks in advance and apologies to the rest... *sigh* (modified to correct spelling cause sometimes I suck at it
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