Mephistophlese Sinclair
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Post by Mephistophlese Sinclair on Aug 5, 2008 15:33:51 GMT -8
Gevurah, I challenge you to a duel. If you want me to forever shut my mouth in matters concerning you and your family, then you will take this opertunity to put a beatdown on me. When you do finally zero me, I will respect torpor to the fullest extent. But if you do not have the fortitude, then I understand. I mean, it's not like I really expect you to put YOUR HW where YOUR mouth is.
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- Acheron -
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Post by - Acheron - on Aug 6, 2008 14:50:03 GMT -8
Mephistophlese, you are a little boy trying to play in a grown up vampires world. If I were fool enough to think you have an ounce of honor or sincerity in your words perhaps I might take you up on your offer. You however have proven yourself to be a liar time and time again. Fact is I don't believe you. You know that I do not duel. Yet, in some futile display of testosterone poisoning you challenge me to a duel. Dueling is not my game, it is dumb and a last vestige for street thugs and idiots like yourself who cannot manage to lead themselves let alone an army of Vampyric warriors. In a city of Chess masters , you want me to play checkers...how quaint. I must decline your offer. I am sure your backers will be sorely disappointed. You see, I have more than myself to consider, I have a family and a clan that I must be responsible to which is more than I can say for you. Perhaps someday if you are able to rise up out of the gutters of the city, dust your self off and gain some dignity it might be possible. Perhaps if you are able to raise your stature in the city by becoming the patriarch of a large well respected family, it might be possible. Perhaps when you've managed to build a decent sized active clan in the city and it is well respected , you might have a shot. Until such a time young one....remember you and I do not play the same game. We come from different understandings of what is right and proper. You will likely think I lack courage to fight you one on one I am sure as the majority of your thinking seems to be filtered through your ass or your balls. Courage has nothing do do with it....I am simply not that stupid. With superior blood points, weapons, and financial status on my side, the odds are clearly not in your favor and you appear as a child, unaware of the facts. Of course, that is only if you fight fair and are true to your word, which I do not believe you are capable of. You have well established your place among the assholes of the city. Congratulations on digging yourself in so well. As far as my family are concerned....you really should offer them an apology.
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Blade
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Post by Blade on Aug 6, 2008 15:50:39 GMT -8
I like Gev. ;D
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Post by Katastrophe St. John-Talon on Aug 6, 2008 16:06:19 GMT -8
Careful, Blade. Apparently saying you like someone these days makes you a brown-noser.
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Post by Errah Dragolescu on Aug 6, 2008 17:28:12 GMT -8
*chuckles* Well writ Gev. *brown-noses*
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Floura Merovingian
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Post by Floura Merovingian on Aug 6, 2008 18:13:35 GMT -8
. I mean, it's not like I really expect you to put YOUR HW where YOUR mouth is. Hmm maybe its just me, but wouldn’t it be better put if you said "Put YOUR HW where MY mouth is?" Be sort of counter productive if he put his HW in his own mouth, don’t you think? Though, should you feel the need to offer that same advice to yourself, may I please sell the tickets to watch? It would be a rather delightful thing to watch. Temping as your offer must have been to my father, to silence your unrelenting smorgasbord of nonsense, I am rather pleased he declined. I would hate to watch him scoop to using needless resources when the battle, though you may not realize it, is already won. Why should he waste his time when you already do such a good job damaging yourself? Call me a 'brown noser' if you wish, I understand you may not be able to help yourself from acting as a third grade human boy, but *shrugs* hey up to you really. To each his/her own. ((edited for a spelling error that was bugging me))
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Post by Arias Talon on Aug 6, 2008 18:15:13 GMT -8
I have to agree with Gevurah on this as well. A very good comparison, chess to checkers. *laughs*
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Post by black_dragonet on Aug 7, 2008 4:33:26 GMT -8
"The pen is mightier than the sword" Someone proved that point once again.
Fact is the city is not fair, in the human meaning of the word. Fair has a different meaning in that vampiric city of ours. When one is overweaponed, overcoined, and just generally overpowered, the only weapon remaining to the weaker often is the word. Yet, it sometimes happens that he who is overpowered also is overworded, if I may allow myself that neologism.
Then what ? If I may, there is sense in Gevurah's advice... Grow some more general consideration, gather some facts proving your points, enough to start gnawing at his consideration throughout the city. You might even rise high enough for him to accept your dueling challenge (though I feel Damari will have accepted she can be wrong before that actually happens).
I do honestly not think that you will get much in terms of citywide consideration and ground in your fight against the merovingians through your present course of actions. That said, you are free to do whatever pleases you. This is just my humble view on the issue, from a rational and strategical standpoint.
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Elektra
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Post by Elektra on Aug 7, 2008 6:03:40 GMT -8
Heh. My respect for Gevurah went up another notch.
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Post by tetragrammaton on Aug 7, 2008 11:02:16 GMT -8
As much as I would like to see Meph shut the hell up - permanently - it was a good idea for Gevurah to decline. The idiot isn't worth the holy water.
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Mephistophlese Sinclair
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Post by Mephistophlese Sinclair on Aug 7, 2008 13:24:05 GMT -8
Mephistophlese, you are a little boy trying to play in a grown up vampires world. If I were fool enough to think you have an ounce of honor or sincerity in your words perhaps I might take you up on your offer. You however have proven yourself to be a liar time and time again. Fact is I don't believe you. You know that I do not duel. Yet, in some futile display of testosterone poisoning you challenge me to a duel. Dueling is not my game, it is dumb and a last vestige for street thugs and idiots like yourself who cannot manage to lead themselves let alone an army of Vampyric warriors. In a city of Chess masters , you want me to play checkers...how quaint. I must decline your offer. I am sure your backers will be sorely disappointed. You see, I have more than myself to consider, I have a family and a clan that I must be responsible to which is more than I can say for you. Perhaps someday if you are able to rise up out of the gutters of the city, dust your self off and gain some dignity it might be possible. Perhaps if you are able to raise your stature in the city by becoming the patriarch of a large well respected family, it might be possible. Perhaps when you've managed to build a decent sized active clan in the city and it is well respected , you might have a shot. Until such a time young one....remember you and I do not play the same game. We come from different understandings of what is right and proper. You will likely think I lack courage to fight you one on one I am sure as the majority of your thinking seems to be filtered through your ass or your balls. Courage has nothing do do with it....I am simply not that stupid. With superior blood points, weapons, and financial status on my side, the odds are clearly not in your favor and you appear as a child, unaware of the facts. Of course, that is only if you fight fair and are true to your word, which I do not believe you are capable of. You have well established your place among the assholes of the city. Congratulations on digging yourself in so well. As far as my family are concerned....you really should offer them an apology. Gevurah, you claim that I have not an ounce of honor or sincerity and you say that I have PROVEN myself to be a liar time and time again. You know that is absolute bullshit. Perhaps I am not so eloquent as you and perhaps I do not lead several dozen sheep to do my bidding. But I am not a fucking liar. You sir are the lying and conniving degenerate. I admit that I am foul and uncouth. but my uncouthyness is still the truth. You preach that honor shit publicly, but you and I both know goddamn well that you intentionally mislead others to further your own goals. You have told me this yourself on more than one occasion over voice communications. You are at least smart enough not to leave a "paper trail". Kudos to you for that. When you and I talked a couple weeks ago, you even said that the whole Sypheronian coup de'tet was grossly mishandled. Did you ever once mention it publicly? Fuck no, because either you were lying to me or because you would never admit any fault of your own in front of those you intend to manipulate. Either way, it is you who lacks honor. So, you go right on ahead and get your Blood up to 40K. Get to that mighty status that you so desire. But to me, your Blood means exactly jack shit if it's tainted with lies and cowardice. At one time, I was intimidated by you and the horseshit you preach. But after getting to know and see the real you, I realized you were not one who practices what they preach. After I left OI, I stayed away from you for a good long while. But I knew that you at least knew how to recite words that implied honor. And when I was made 2ic at Syphs, I came to you for advice. I still saw you as being a good source for that. But it is your actions and your intent that I allways doubted. And I think that is the real reason that you encouraged ravy to get rid of me. You knew that I would call you on your BS if you even tried it. Where else would ravy get the notion that I wanted to take over her clan? If I had wanted it, I could have just sat back and let her remove herself from the clan and city, like she intended to do twice during the short 3 months I was her 2ic. *Scratches head* Kinda like she is doing now. You being the conniving POS that you are, knew that if you could get one of yours into the 2ic position (i.e. your son Nghthawk who bound to ravy a mere 2 weeks before I was ejected), then all you would have to do is wait for her to leave and then "Wham bam thankyou for the clan". You would then exorcize control over another clan w/o even having to use a single weapon. Bravo!!! Well played Oh chessmaster. Now on to the duel that you seem to think is such a foolish idea... I will not ever shut my mouth about you and your sheep. Go ahead and zero me. Fuck you. I will continue to be a thorn in your side untill I get my pound of flesh from your ass. Fuck the blood. Fuck what the other inhabitants of the city think of duels. This is what I want. Dismiss me if you want, but that will not silence me. Fight me and we can end this shit once and for all. And for you to think that I would not uphold my end of the deal... Well that just shows how little you understand me. I think you just assume that everyone is a lying piece of shit like yourself. I want this to be over and done with.
Oh you did suggest that I apologize to your family. Well here it is.I am so sorry that your patriarch is a manipulating gutless piece of shit!!!
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death
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Post by death on Aug 7, 2008 13:59:53 GMT -8
Back to Caveman or Troglidite speech............insert your own laugh here
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Blade
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Post by Blade on Aug 7, 2008 17:33:47 GMT -8
Meph, you talk too much, dude.
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Elektra
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Post by Elektra on Aug 7, 2008 18:14:31 GMT -8
But I am not a fucking liar. I'm sure there are quite a few of us who think otherwise. Please shut up. Thank you.
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Post by Bug Merovingian on Aug 7, 2008 21:04:22 GMT -8
Meph you are starting to sound much like the human child who has had their feelings hurt from being excluded while playing in the sand box.
Listen, and listen well, Meph. You will not get your "duel". My sire has told you such. It is simple. You are over-matched, both physically and intellectually. You can say what ever you wish about us, or our sire, but the fact remains we have not disgraced ourselves. You sir, have.
I truly hate seeing you act this way, as I know you are better than this. I once remember an conversation we had, where you did not want a paper trail. To bring to light such a thing is useless. Unless you are guilty of doing the same thing you have accused my sire of doing? You've heard the saying, "Those in glass houses"? I find it very appropriate right now.
You say Gev has an ulterior motive? Okay, you are right and I will tell only those who are here right now what it is. Our sire, and clan leader, is trying to secure a warm and safe place for us to call home. Be it, clan member or family matters little in his grand scheme There it is. In depth, is it not? Just keep this our little secret, okay?
Umm, correct me if I am wrong but, isn't that what almost every other clan leader is doing as well?
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