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Post by ophelia Lokason on Oct 20, 2009 13:06:26 GMT -8
After all, isn't this city run on being able to prove a statement as truth? I'd surely have to say so, since that's the basis for most wars *snorts* What city is it that you live in? I'd like to visit there one of these days while I'm on vacation! ~HiS~ |
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Oct 20, 2009 13:08:32 GMT -8
As for this whole Ember matter, please try not to mix us up. My name is Neu and I am definitely more outspoken than my quieter half is.  Nooooooooow I'm confused  which isn't necessarily unusual. If your name is Neu then why does your identification say Ember? ~HiS~ *edited* I get it now with the Neu. It's the pink text *nods* even if I'm still confused about the name thing now. This is an IC section of the Bite I thought. If not, apologies.*** |
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Oct 20, 2009 13:16:24 GMT -8
And now to stay on topic ><
There are many artists in the city that make wonderful banners for us, Pulse and Josephine included. So good luck on your business venture!
~HiS~
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Post by seyda on Oct 20, 2009 13:29:45 GMT -8
Yeah, except they weren't the first, either. First ever couple signature belongs to yours truly and the hot Greek. If my childer wish to take a tradition that started in our family and try to make a few bucks off it, more power to them. The rest of you bitching are only serving to make yourselves appear worried that you're losing business, or pissy because you can't afford what they're offering. Tut tut. *snorts and flails her hands behind the screen while rolling her eyes* Honestly, who here was bitching about losing business? Or better yet, how is it making us, as banner makers, worried that we're going to lose business when we're putting out several banners a week -and- have people coming back to ask for more? Once again, I'd love to point out Xaxxa's art, which seems to be quite a big hit with many of the members here; and, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they being done for free?
As far as I'm concerned, I see banner makers who actually do work for free putting out more works than those who force people to pay for them. Or, as Coquette has said, some patrons will pay gracious donations for a lovely piece of work by the more talented banner makers.
No one is being pissy that they can't afford it, we're merely not willing to pay that ridiculous of an amount for works that we can:
a) create ourselves -or-
b) get from equally talented banner makers free of charge
Greed simply doesn't get anyone anywhere, I'm afraid.
As for the whole couple signatures thing, I'd love to see where you can show me proof of yours being the first pair banners in existence. After all, isn't this city run on being able to prove a statement as truth? I'd surely have to say so, since that's the basis for most wars or other equally important events taking place. If you can prove to me, with a snapshot, and not merely by word of mouth (because we know everyone has lied at some point or another) then I'll bow out gracefully. Until then, well...I'll prove it to you when you can prove that you actually give some value to this city. By the way, I know what you're trying, and you're left wanting. Just so you know. |
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Post by Delphine on Oct 20, 2009 14:35:11 GMT -8
*chuckles*
well.
the creation date I have in my files dates from November 18th 2007.
Now of course, there is nowhere these are used anymore, (because rotating signatures were just too demanding), but, you're not going to take my word for it. but whatever, doesnt matter Nue or Ember or whoever you are today.
And if someone else did it before that, then a big WoooHoooo!! [/sarcasm]
Anywho, I'm not even gonna post them cause now that I look at them again, I dont like them.
Aaasmiaaa!!! when 'you gonna let me make you a new one???
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Post by Archontohs on Oct 20, 2009 14:52:24 GMT -8
There wasn't even this big of an uproar when prostitution started... And do you even realize how much a bigger deal that is than this?
Anyways... Good job going with an idea that some have done before but never succeeded in the long run. Best wishes and all that.
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Post by Delphine on Oct 20, 2009 15:15:29 GMT -8
yeah well, people say shit and then other people have to say shit back and ergo, UPROAR!!
meh, if there were any, you'd be bored. *grin*
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Post by Ember Wilde on Oct 20, 2009 15:46:34 GMT -8
After all, isn't this city run on being able to prove a statement as truth? I'd surely have to say so, since that's the basis for most wars *snorts* What city is it that you live in? I'd like to visit there one of these days while I'm on vacation! ~HiS~
Perhaps my view that truth can be found within lies is skewed to some, but I would be curious as to how you or others interpret the same thing. That is what makes the mind great, after all, and it is how others learn.As for this whole Ember matter, please try not to mix us up. My name is Neu and I am definitely more outspoken than my quieter half is. Nooooooooow I'm confused which isn't necessarily unusual. If your name is Neu then why does your identification say Ember? ~HiS~ *edited* I get it now with the Neu. It's the pink text *nods* even if I'm still confused about the name thing now. This is an IC section of the Bite I thought. If not, apologies.*** ((This is an IC section. It should be coming up as white, and the identifying color for each persona is under the banner)) I'll prove it to you when you can prove that you actually give some value to this city. By the way, I know what you're trying, and you're left wanting. Just so you know.
And I'm not trying anything. I merely asked for proof of a statement, which I have not yet received. Take it as you will, though.*chuckles* well. the creation date I have in my files dates from November 18th 2007. Now of course, there is nowhere these are used anymore, (because rotating signatures were just too demanding), but, you're not going to take my word for it. but whatever, doesnt matter Nue or Ember or whoever you are today. And if someone else did it before that, then a big WoooHoooo!! [/sarcasm] [/b] the first in existence to use pair banners, as your sire previously said. Case closed, as far as I’m concerned.[/color] |
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Post by Delphine on Oct 21, 2009 4:34:49 GMT -8
well, chickadee, I`ve only been in this city for a little over 4 years, before that time, I do not have followups of what every.single.couple. did as signatures or business cards. Why do you need this proof so bad? is it really that much of a big deal to you, to prove Seyda wrong? That seems kinda petty. Hmm.. Why would you have such petty resentments?
But, meh, as you said, case closed, it's a stupid thing to dwell on, really. I must really be bored.
*goes to see other sections of this forum to see what's made the 'news'*
Ciao!
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Post by Ember Wilde on Oct 21, 2009 5:26:31 GMT -8
*shrugs*
I simply search for the truth in a city that is often full of lies and deceit, as has been shown time and time again. This is, in turn, because there have been many more times (aside from this one) when evidence has been used to prove a statement either true or false. When someone cannot provide evidence to back up what they are saying, especially when the statement is made so boldly and could be readily taken at face value should no one step forward to question it, then I lean towards it being a falsity until someone -can- verify it with me.
It would be like a 'pire running around the city shouting that so-and-so hit them with a garlic spray or some other form of weaponry, and yet, they have no photograph of the incident. Nor do they really show any sign of blood loss. Who would you be inclined to believe more once you heard both sides? I certainly know I wouldn't believe that the person was hit until they were able to prove it to me; anyone has the capability to cry wolf, should they choose.
There is nothing petty in wanting the truth or even proof that a statement is true. In as much, I hold no resentment towards your sire; she has given me no reason to have it. I simply asked for evidence because it is what is in me to do and it is the way I think. I'm sure it's a bit pressing, but too many things are, as I said before, merely taken at face value and accepted as they are.
edited for grammar
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Post by black_dragonet on Oct 21, 2009 11:10:00 GMT -8
*bows*
Before there were these online places, there used to be taverns. I rarely got there, for I preferred my home. I've never been a front guy. I remember two matching signatures back then: those of Damari and Lucius, and those of ophelia and Niflheim.
Those were the first matching signatures I rememer, and those were like 4 or 5 years ago.
When the online places started, I remember being confused by Seyda and Asmia's banners, for they were just the same, save for the colouring. Those were the first banners or cards that were matching, and they were definitely matching. Later, a couple of people made banners with common features I remember a time when the Dawns had matching banners.
Coquette and her partner were the first ones to make matching AND combining banners that i remember.
Ember, or Neu, or whoever you are, which is not my problem, you should just accept that nobody has taken a picture of everyone's business card 5 years ago, so all you can have in terms of proof is witnesses, reliable and unbiased witnesses.
Their word is worth their credibility, and their experience. Mine is long, though not as long as some other ones.
You are young, so you'll have to believe other people, not evidence noone can offer.
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Post by Do Not PM this Account. on Oct 21, 2009 11:25:05 GMT -8
I HAD started to farm cards from the Nitty as a way of logging history but I got lazy and gave up. >.> I bet we could look there, though.
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Post by seyda on Oct 21, 2009 14:04:49 GMT -8
What does my value in the city have to do with me merely asking for you to prove your statement true? Better yet, the question I would like to pose is: How do you define what--or who--is or isn't valuable in the city? Obviously, not everyone is of like mind, so we're all going to have something to different to say on that matter.
And I'm not trying anything. I merely asked for proof of a statement, which I have not yet received. Take it as you will, though. Because you know full well that what you're asking for cannot be provided, because signatures change like underwear in this city. I would have to have a screenshot of a paper from two years ago with the signature in it timestamped in order to deliver definitive proof. I still have it uploaded, but I'm sure that wouldn't be good enough for you because there are no dates of upload. So, your value has worth in that no matter what you say here, there isn't anything that you could deliver that isn't word of mouth (which you discounted) to answer that question that proves your value definitively. And, just as much as it simply does not matter if I feel that you have value, it simply does not matter what you think regarding my two year old signature. |
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Post by Delphine on Oct 21, 2009 15:03:03 GMT -8
*bows* When the online places started, I remember being confused by Seyda and Asmia's banners, for they were just the same, save for the colouring. Damn Dragonet.. t'as putain de bonne mémoire!! (you have bloody good memory) |
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Post by Josephine on Oct 21, 2009 20:23:11 GMT -8
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which isn't necessarily unusual. If your name is Neu then why does your identification say Ember?
