Spinner
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Post by Spinner on Nov 6, 2009 22:45:46 GMT -8
Having the transit guards is one thing...a group to police the city with gods knows what rules anyone could have made up is another. Again, I say that there will be a group come along soon that will say that NW is going against what ever city code might be made up at the time.
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smitsmit
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Post by smitsmit on Nov 6, 2009 23:16:04 GMT -8
our rules and laws are defined by our clan ambassadors, and senators, not us. we have no intent to interfere with clan issues, or the status quo. we simply aim to protect those who are victims of attacks outside of a clan war. If some future group comes and steps on our feet for doing that (I cant really imagine it happening) so be it. It will be dealt with when the time comes. I should also point out that the NightWatch isn't some new organization that just popped up in the last few months, we were initially founded in late 2002. Yes, like many organizations, even the splinters, we've had our ups and downs. But our duties in the Transits, and the Graveyard never stopped over the years. nightwatch.ravenblackcity.com I repeat my request to you Liander, If you know of a vampire who is in need of help, refer them to us, and we will be glad to investigate the issue and help them out.
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Spinner
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Post by Spinner on Nov 6, 2009 23:46:33 GMT -8
Then I suggest you find those cowards who hire assassins to do their dirty work and attack them. Like my grandsire said, hate the message but not the messenger.
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Liander
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Post by Liander on Nov 7, 2009 6:37:59 GMT -8
I repeat my request to you Liander, If you know of a vampire who is in need of help, refer them to us, and we will be glad to investigate the issue and help them out. Why not start with the countless fledglings being zeroed day after day? I didn't see you anywhere when I was zeroing Piper. You've been here since 2002? I've been here since 2007. Where were you when I was being kept at zero for weeks on end by a clanless vampire that one of my sires had bound to? How about you get your lazy ass to the ghettos and, oh, I don't know, ASK if someone needs help? It's not my job to figure out who needs help. You claim it's yours, so do it.
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Post by Loki_Devlin on Nov 7, 2009 8:18:35 GMT -8
You can not, under any circumstances, presume you have the right to say what someone can or can't do. What gives you the right to say I don't have the right to say what someone can or can't do?
Ahhhh, I love a paradox ...
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smitsmit
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Post by smitsmit on Nov 7, 2009 9:57:33 GMT -8
So much for a civil discussion Liander Huh? I tried to reason with you, I tried to explain our goals and actions, and you do something like this.
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Post by ◞◯◟ on Nov 7, 2009 10:49:40 GMT -8
Liander is mentally nothing more than a child. He claims to mature and change but never does.
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vamps
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Post by vamps on Nov 7, 2009 12:42:32 GMT -8
Liander is mentally nothing more than a child. He claims to mature and change but never does. I'd say a more truthful statement concerning him would be hard to find, especially if one were to add emotionally childish as well. If nothing else, there's the consistency. *shrugs*
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Liander
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Post by Liander on Nov 7, 2009 13:58:43 GMT -8
I tried to reason with you, I tried to explain our goals and actions, and you do something like this. So, let me get this straight... It's okay for you to forego all civil discussion with the Splinters, and attempt to keep them at zero, because one out of every hundred or so people you speak to support you, but... It's not okay for me to turn around and do the same thing to you? We're alike in our causes, smitsmit. You see the Splinters as a plague, and are attempting to eradicate them. I see the NightWatch as a plague, and I'm going to show you the same kindness.
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Post by black_dragonet on Nov 7, 2009 14:04:03 GMT -8
Smitsmit, I think the best answer to be given to that would be to ignore him... Anyway, anything you can do or say will not be as efficient in proving how immature he is as what he does himself. Does anyone pay attention to the tantrums of a child? No. and it belongs to the education process that will bring a whiny baby in diapers to a toddling child, then later to a youngling, and maybe eventually as an adult. He seems to still be in the earlier phase.
Sorry, but that really was childish... And some sort of explanation as to why you have been repeatedly zeroed in your younger years, and maybe also why sane people didn't see it as unfair at the time, but understandable.
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Liander
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Post by Liander on Nov 7, 2009 14:13:07 GMT -8
Does anyone pay attention to the tantrums of a child? No.. Yet you pay attention to the tantrum NightWatch is throwing because of a contract.
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Post by ladypeacek on Nov 7, 2009 15:51:40 GMT -8
Smitsmit, I think the best answer to be given to that would be to ignore him... Anyway, anything you can do or say will not be as efficient in proving how immature he is as what he does himself. Does anyone pay attention to the tantrums of a child? No. and it belongs to the education process that will bring a whiny baby in diapers to a toddling child, then later to a youngling, and maybe eventually as an adult. He seems to still be in the earlier phase. Sorry, but that really was childish... And some sort of explanation as to why you have been repeatedly zeroed in your younger years, and maybe also why sane people didn't see it as unfair at the time, but understandable. Unfortunately, in this instance you will have to give me the credit for the childish behavior, rather than Liander. I say this because it was not he that initiated this little smack, it was me. I took him along. From the conversations I have heard recently inside and outside of this paper concerning this entire situation and those involved- my previous devotion to splinters and their cause- mixed with me missing some good old fashioned fun with the kiddos- Well it was just fate that I happened upon smitsmit in the city...and there you have it. So please, carry on with the pompous, self righteous speech...just direct it to the right place. Me.
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Post by femme fatale on Nov 7, 2009 16:30:37 GMT -8
question!
do we really really really need policemen?
i think NightWatch would be more effective if they look for breaking of rules written on RavenBlack's book >.>
guide those lil ones who are clanless, sireless, have zero idea of the city law and maybe let the clans fulfill their purpose?
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Master Dracula
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Post by Master Dracula on Nov 7, 2009 16:44:56 GMT -8
I have been thinking of founding Day Watch for some time. But heck, I have no idea how to operate it, by humans probably
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Post by occamrazor on Nov 7, 2009 17:21:58 GMT -8
So much for a civil discussion Liander Huh? I tried to reason with you, I tried to explain our goals and actions, and you do something like this. wow looks like a family reunion
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