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Post by solanea on Nov 7, 2009 18:40:07 GMT -8
Because I hold true to my beliefs and I hold myself accountable for every action I make I have decided that I will no longer partake in the circus that hitting SoD has become.
I fight for reason not publicity and that’s all that’s happening now. Due to recent events that have taken place within the NightWatch I feel it’s in my best interest to not continue in the attacks against SoD.
However, If any do come hit me as Occamrazor has I will hit back I am not going to cower in shadows I will stand my ground. I will stand proud and stand tall just as I told the one who hired the Splinters to hit me. I am not broken I am not defeated I am not beaten by any means.
I swore an oath to defend the defenseless and I will not waiver from that task nor will I put blame on others for my actions. I will stay true to myself. I am NightWatch. Sol
It is the mind that leads a man to power, not strength of body. Crow Maxim
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Post by ladypeacek on Nov 7, 2009 19:08:34 GMT -8
Just out of bored curiousity- what belief is it that you are staying true to? I'm not sure I followed why you have decided to stop. Is it because you believe a fight ends and your reason evaporates suddenly when it becomes public? Or were you not staying true to your beliefs when you began the attacks and decided to start being true now?
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Post by solanea on Nov 7, 2009 19:16:07 GMT -8
No ma'm I’ve always stayed true to myself and will always that is why I have decided to stop because it was not meant to be a circus and that’s what it is now and I want no part of it. I have no problem with it being public as all things are in RBC but it bothers me that some can't just do the job and quiet themselves. It has turned into the he said she said and that’s not the reason or purpose to continue. But thank you for your bored curiosity as all comments only help me to grow stronger and wiser. I’ve always viewed you as someone who has wise things to say.
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Post by Damia on Nov 7, 2009 20:00:53 GMT -8
Forgive me if I am confused lady. Though I find it noble that you are holding to your beliefs of not attacking the splinters due to a media circus that surrounds it. I must confess confusion as you seemed to have been willing to attack a former clan member who seemed to have done nothing to you on a simple whim. Yet your backing off the splinters who have killed many for money due to a media circus? How can you protect the defenseless and stand against those that go against your very codes as has been made clear by Smit...yet in this statement and the action you displayed in another area on the bite contradicts this. If you don't mind me asking that is.
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Post by solanea on Nov 7, 2009 20:30:04 GMT -8
I don't mind at all and thank you for asking. I am not doing this to be noble and this thread has to do with my attacking the Splinters the other thread I already said my peace. I am not going to lie or hide or make any excuses. I posted this pubilically so that all will know I am no longer going to fight a battle that I don't see as just. I am not perfect by any means but I am always willing to step up and say when I made a mistake and in the other thread that was a mistake I should not have even thought of hitting her and because of the actions of others within the NW I have decided it best to cease my hits on SOD. Again thank you for your thoughts and questions it is much appreciated.
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Post by Genevive Sinclair on Nov 7, 2009 23:06:49 GMT -8
Every fight in this city has the potential of becoming what you call a "circus". If you didn't know that before you took part in this one, then you need to return to the rock you've been living under. Negative publicity sucks, but it passes and eventually becomes a vague memory to those not directly involved. Leaving the fight between NW and SoD right now doesn't make you look any better... it just shows lack of commitment to the cause you willingly joined before it became a "circus".
Seems to me, you're trying to get back in the good graces of us onlookers because you made yourself look foolish in the other article. Deny it if you so choose, but if you didn't care what we thought, you would have kept all of this to yourself.
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Post by coolhandluke on Nov 7, 2009 23:15:27 GMT -8
So you dropped out of the fight because you felt the publicity tainted your ideals.... then post that publicly pretty much with a 'look how humble I am!" message.
Cool. *shrugs and leaves*
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Post by solanea on Nov 7, 2009 23:16:57 GMT -8
Yes it does and thank you for reminding me of that but the fight is over for more than just I and I dont feel foolish in the least bit. I post it publically for a reason yes but not the reason you think. I do thank you for your comments your wise in your speaking and helps me to see things from different points of views. I have posted this and will except all comments as a learning tool but will no longer speak on the matter as my purpose of doing so has been fulfilled.
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Post by Mephistophlese Sinclair on Nov 7, 2009 23:56:19 GMT -8
the fight is over for more than just IJust I? Jeezus that hurts my fucking ears. Hon, you should have known what and why you were throwing HW in the first place. And if you can't comply with the orders given to you from your Captain, then perhaps you should resign your commission. Picking and choosing what battles to fight undermines the integrity of the entire unit. In a time of war, what you have done is often considered treason. A crime that is usually punishable by death by a firing squad of your peers. You entered the fight and now that the heat is being turned up, you show your true colors. Your leaders were counting on you when they planned this battle. And now they are no longer working with the assets that they were pledged. How do you expect anyone to ever trust your word when you betray so easily? -- ETA -- because of the actions of others within the NW I have decided it best to cease my hits on SOD. This statement implies that you initially attacked SoD because things in NW were just hunky dorey and you already had some reason to attack them in the first place. Now you cease your attacks, not because of anything that has changed about the SoD, but because something in NW has changed? That in itself makes you even more dumberer than I thunked possible. P.S. In case anyone wants to give me shit for using the words dumberer and thunked... I already know they're not real words.
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Post by black_dragonet on Nov 9, 2009 15:35:08 GMT -8
Just one thing... Did Soleana actually attack her clan member? No.
She was angry for a eason that was not stated, and threatened to. She later acknowledged hers had been a hasty and unfortunate anger burst. To me, it just looks like plain honesty.
On the other hand, some other people, namely Liander and Occamrazor did actually attack her, without giving sensible reasons. To me, it looks like people past their prime trying to get cheap glory.
Who deserves verbal bashing?
Of course, I do not agree with the reason given for leaving this fight, but at least, she says what she does, and she does what she says. Or she makes efforts to seem to do, which cannot be said for some others.
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Post by Bug Merovingian on Nov 9, 2009 17:14:47 GMT -8
Sol is the type of person, based upon my own experience, that when the going get's tough she get's going..... right away from the situation. She is morally weak despite her pseudo-honest words.
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Post by Mephistophlese Sinclair on Nov 9, 2009 18:10:13 GMT -8
Of course, I do not agree with the reason given for leaving this fight, but at least, she says what she does, and she does what she says. Or she makes efforts to seem to do, which cannot be said for some others. Which reason do you not agree with? Due to recent events that have taken place within the NightWatch I feel it’s in my best interest to not continue in the attacks against SoD. Or I have decided to stop because it was not meant to be a circus and that’s what it is now It looks to me like she gave a bad reason to begin with and when that excuse no longer suited her, she chose another bad reason less than a half hour later. Sol is the type of person, based upon my own experience, that when the going get's tough she get's going..... right away from the situation. She is morally weak despite her pseudo-honest words. As in canceling her subscription to the bite?
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Post by Genevive Sinclair on Nov 9, 2009 22:15:46 GMT -8
On the other hand, some other people, namely Liander and Occamrazor did actually attack her, without giving sensible reasons. To me, it looks like people past their prime trying to get cheap glory. Who deserves verbal bashing? They all deserve it. This whole thing with Solanea, the Night Watch, SoD, and the rabid monkey's jumping on the bandwagon is utter nonsense! I've lost respect for a few pires I use to admire and my loathing of others has reached a new level. No one involved is going to come out of this looking like a hero! They are all making fools of themselves.
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Post by Damari on Nov 10, 2009 1:51:04 GMT -8
On the other hand, some other people, namely Liander and Occamrazor did actually attack her, without giving sensible reasons. To me, it looks like people past their prime trying to get cheap glory. Liander and Occam had a Prime? When the fuck did that happen? News to me. Blackie, come on. You cant possibly try to see the good in EVERYTHING. You can't just walk away from a war because you suddenly decide it's too much for you. Foot soldiers don't get the luxury of choice, not at her level. It's why she will remain a foot soldier and never be trusted to lead much more than this high ideal of hers. When you are called to war, you act on it. You have chosen first to be a part of that unit and in choosing you also chose to obey, honour and fight alongside those same vampires. You don't get to fuck off just because you later decide it's not your thing. You give them the respect they deserve as comrades. Your honour, your obligation is first to them and once you have fulfilled that obligation then you can step aside and make conscience decisions based on 'Ideals'. But NOT, absolutely NOT in the middle of a conflict. Have enough respect for the first oath you gave to the unit, uphold that, then maybe you can step away when it is a better time. The measure of any person happens at the time of great conflict. Ones ability to stick with shit is tested at these times and walking away with a mediocre excuse of 'Ideals' is crap. It's regurgitated horse shit. Flowery worded fecal matter dressed pretty in order to hide the stink of her cowardice.
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Post by black_dragonet on Nov 11, 2009 16:31:10 GMT -8
Exactly. There is no other word for leaving a fight in the middle of a war other than desertion. She actually deserted twice, since she revoked her subscription here.
Yet, the other two aren't worth more than her.
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