Mephistophlese Sinclair
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?True leadership must be for the benefit of the followers, not the enrichment of the leaders.?
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Post by Mephistophlese Sinclair on Oct 2, 2008 8:00:30 GMT -8
The respect I give for the graveyard has nothing to do with a tradition that was begun by mere vampires, but by the god RavenBlack himself. Yes, I could technicly go in and attack the coward, but I know why the graveyard was declared hallowed ground to begin with. I have a similer view of Marlenas wishing well. Not the exact same view, but only similer. To find out what is different, Gev will have to hide there to see how I handle it differently.
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Genevive Sinclair
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Addiction to Meph saved my unlife. [C01:00FFFF]
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Post by Genevive Sinclair on Oct 2, 2008 9:18:16 GMT -8
Wow...looks like Gev is practicing old DOA type habits. Rest where you won't be attacked... if I recall, that didn't work out too well the last time...I have the scar to prove it. Damn...I've lost a lot of blood for that family...
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Post by vermathraxrex on Oct 2, 2008 9:41:27 GMT -8
The respect I give for the graveyard has nothing to do with a tradition that was begun by mere vampires, but by the god RavenBlack himself. Yes, I could technicly go in and attack the coward, but I know why the graveyard was declared hallowed ground to begin with. I have a similer view of Marlenas wishing well. Not the exact same view, but only similer. To find out what is different, Gev will have to hide there to see how I handle it differently. So, if RavenBlack himself says you are the whiney bag of hot air most of us consider you to be, you would accept that as gospel then?
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Post by thalialeu on Oct 2, 2008 11:27:24 GMT -8
Wasn't the gravenyard build by the god RB because the comunitie of the city asked for it to pay respect to the pyre there?
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Oct 2, 2008 12:42:32 GMT -8
Yes it was. As well, 'Mere vampires' established the code of conduct on what occurs there. Raven Black enforces none of it. Much like he doesn't enforce the traditional resting values that many observe in this city. Without the cloak.
While Meph has managed to make himself look like a hypocrite at this point in time he's managed to hold onto a shred of dignity by not hitting-or so he has stated.
And again, one must ask. Why Gevurah, if you are fully aware that you are still engaged in a conflict, are you there at all? There really is no excuse for it. Also, Meph, ever heard of a displacement? They aren't, according to RavenBlacks standards, which we all know that you hold as the law when it suits you, considered an actual attack.
~HiS~
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Post by black_dragonet on Oct 2, 2008 13:15:22 GMT -8
*shakes head in amazement* My my my... How can someone as honourable as you Gev resort to such tactics... You cannot have ignored that you were under attack. It is almost unreal to see you and a few others doing what looks like hiding in the graveyard...
Meph, I believe you have managed part of your goal, that is having Gev loose the a part aura he had, at least to my eye and those of a few others, but I fear you do not gain much respectability out of this all, because the tone you use is damaging your cause...
As far as the Graveyard goes, I have to second what Ophelia said. Ravenblack created the place, vampires of the old times established the code of conduct, and it is not Ravenblack who guards the graveyard, it is an ancient group of vampire to watches the place.
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Post by Bug Merovingian on Oct 3, 2008 10:04:35 GMT -8
I will state my sire has not been "hiding" anywhere, least of all in the Graveyard. He has simply been testing the limits of Meph's depredations. For anyone to accuse him of hiding, speaks loudly they do know him well.
Meph will continue his actions, we know this. For anyone to say that my sire has been acting cowardly is ridiculous. How does one fight against another who does not fight by the same rules? Meph continously hit's Gev, then we would kill him. He would necro back up, and hit again. With his funding, it is a useless endeavor to continue to kill him. This has become no more than the actions of a "spoiled child" who didn't get what they wanted, and now are have a temper tantrum.
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Oct 3, 2008 10:25:31 GMT -8
He has simply been testing the limits of Meph's depredations. For anyone to accuse him of hiding, speaks loudly they do know him well. Poor excuse. Such a pity. ~HiS~
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Post by Bug Merovingian on Oct 3, 2008 14:12:48 GMT -8
Ophelia, your opinion of my explanation matters not one bit to me. You call this an excuse, which it is not.. The only thing I did was explain, which none of us needed to do, what my sire's reasoning was.
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Mephistophlese Sinclair
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Post by Mephistophlese Sinclair on Oct 3, 2008 16:13:09 GMT -8
For anyone to accuse him of hiding, speaks loudly they do know him well. Oh my. Did you just now accedently speak a bit of truth there? ? ? How does one fight against another who does not fight by the same rules? Meph continously hit's Gev, then we would kill him. He would necro back up, and hit again. With his funding, it is a useless endeavor to continue to kill him. Good question Buggy. How could one ensure that their advisary abides by the same torpor traditions? Hmmm... Idontknow... Maybe Gev could don the battlecloak. That would prevent anyone from attacking him by seeing a necromancer, would it not? Of course Gev could just get truely fully powered by getting Neutrality. But then Gev would be totally useless in battle. At least with a battlecloak he could still wage war with others who wear it, am I not indeed right?
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Post by Bug Merovingian on Oct 3, 2008 17:42:48 GMT -8
OOC:
That was a typo. It should have read "do NOT know him well" Please leave the mistakes alone. Thanks.
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Oct 3, 2008 18:23:49 GMT -8
So your Sire used the Graveyard to wage a bit of passive aggressive war fare against a single opponent? Your Sire knowingly went there in hopes that Meph would do a credit to his natural asinine behavior and attack him in the Graveyard? Your Sire had no qualms about showing a complete lack of respect for the purpose of the Graveyard and long held honorable traditions in an attempt to trump a single opponent?
Does anyone here want to lay odds that had Meph attacked Gevurah within the Graveyard, Gevurah or a spokes person for him would have been the first in here crowing at the top of their lungs?
In many ways, because of this particular action, some could go so far in saying that Gevurah is not much better than Mephostoples. At least he didn't use the Graveyard to further his idiotic cause.
Of course, this is by no means fact and merely a personal observation, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to read the signs of behavior that is degenerating as the nights pass.
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Post by Bug Merovingian on Oct 3, 2008 20:12:59 GMT -8
You will read into this exactly what you wish, and it disappoints me that you seem to continue to pick at every little item, or statement we make in regards to this issue. My sire had a valid reason for being in the graveyard, and no, he was not attacked while there, thankfully. His reason was actually two fold for being there. I only stated the reason pertaining to the current topic.
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Post by black_dragonet on Oct 3, 2008 23:57:50 GMT -8
Honestly, bug, you should take your sire to a vampire doctor for a general checkup. The Gevurah I have known and liked to the point I thought about asking him to become my sire has sort of disappeared, fading in the last month like an alzheimer human.
I have been trying to sort the true from the wrong with regard to him, and the best I can think is that he has become afflicted by some form of illness that is preventing him from acting his own self... I wonder if he has not got something line the human's Alzheimer's disease.
His honour, and wisdom of old seem to disappear. He loses his hold over some of his family members, letting them behave like bullies and evading their responsibilities, and then gives weaponry to his opponents to go against him. No matter what you say, the damage has been done. Gev has let a situation happen where what most shall see is Gev hiding from Meph in the graveyard.
Take care of him, bug, he really needs it. Have him healed of whatever cripples his mind...
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Post by seyda on Oct 4, 2008 4:59:36 GMT -8
The only thing that did surprise me was Seyda decided to misquote me and then asked if it drove someone batshit crazy or something to that effect. I thought she woulda pulled out her usual lawnchair like she allways does. But then, the fight between Gev and I still is not over, so she has plenty of time to get all comfy and situated. Unfortunately, sir, you are neither honorable nor entertaining. You act like a 4 year old who had a lolly taken away from him and that is really not endearing. Your attempts at shoving the spotlight on Gevurah in the graveyard may be working on some in this city, but what attention I do have is still fixated directly upon one of the facts of this situation, and that is of you acting like a petulant brat. Just keep in mind...for everything you throw around publically, there are about 3 other things that I've been handed privately. You would be best to heed the words of your "mentor" over there. Muzzling up would probably be the best thing to save your own rep (not that you care of course, which I'm sure will be your reply anyway).
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