Damari
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Post by Damari on Oct 4, 2008 14:15:28 GMT -8
I robbed the graveyard attendant and he telepathed me the sacred nature of the graveyard. I told him to kiss my ass.
The Graveyard is just a place. Get over it.
Meph, just kill the bastard and be done with it. Logistics are semantics and you're making my eyes hurt.
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Mephistophlese Sinclair
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Post by Mephistophlese Sinclair on Oct 4, 2008 15:59:16 GMT -8
Unfortunately, sir, you are neither honorable nor entertaining... <snip> ...Your attempts at shoving the spotlight on Gevurah in the graveyard may be working on some in this city, but what attention I do have is still fixated directly upon one of the facts of this situation, and that is of you acting like a petulant brat. To your eyes and those of many others, I know I am neither honorable, nor entertaining, and I act like a "petulant brat". But how would you describe the way HE acts, and has acted ? Muzzling up would probably be the best thing to save your own rep (not that you care of course, which I'm sure will be your reply anyway). Actually Seyda, I do care. I didn't before. I was blinded by anger and frustration. And now that it seems others are beginning to see that I was right about what I was saying despite how I was saying it, I am not so frustrated. I am only angry now. And I think I may be able to overcome that one obstacle. OK, well I suppose I still have a whole set of obstacles to overcome. But I have to take this journey one step at a time. If I were to suddenly become "All growed up and mature" overnight, I doubt that anyone would believe me, and rightly so. To all the vampires that I have offended with my vulgar tone in which I have expressed myself, I apologize. In the future, I hope to just give you the facts and let the rest of you reach your own conclusions. I see now by looking at how I spoke, I was really just shoving my opinions down your throats. And for that I truly am sorry. I should have had more faith in vampire society to eventually understand why I despised Gevurah so much. But at the time, it was just so very frustrating to see everyone accept his words at face value without question while I was the one being portrayed as the traitorous power hungry manipulator. In every comment that I have made in this publication, I never intentionally said anything that I knew was a lie. I made many accusations, and I was right about a majority of them. A few turned out to be inaccurate. But I did believe in my undead heart that I was right. Had you all known the Gevurah that I know, then you would have understood why I questioned EVERYTHING that comes from him. Damari, I may not follow every tradition that most pires believe in, but I do believe in the sanctity of the graveyard. I did not need another pire to tell me that the graveyard was off limits. I just don't bring malice there period.
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Damari
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Post by Damari on Oct 4, 2008 18:58:25 GMT -8
*laughs* You think the dead care? I would hazard they don't. And they are past any humanization of a place that is merely dirt, stone and rotting corpse's.
I never did understand vampire's need to make that place off limits. Personally, I think it's a wildly stupid idea created by some lingering human failing on our parts. Some are free to believe the cemetery some sacrosanct area of the city.
To me, it's just a place with bones... rotting decomposing and useless bones. Of course, mine is a wholly unpopular opinion and many would think me a heartless and cold bitch for it.
I'm not really caring about that either.
Have fun Meph... let us know when you have him dead.
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seyda
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Post by seyda on Oct 5, 2008 6:16:31 GMT -8
To your eyes and those of many others, I know I am neither honorable, nor entertaining, and I act like a "petulant brat". But how would you describe the way HE acts, and has acted ? ... <snip> Had you all known the Gevurah that I know, then you would have understood why I questioned EVERYTHING that comes from him. <snip> I have had no qualms telling Gevurah what I feel he has done well in this situation and what he has not. The difference between you and me is that I haven't felt the need to overpromote and broadcast things all over the papers. Why? Because it's TRUTH that will set you free; not blatantly rude cries for attention delivered by one acting like a child. I have been more than open to those who have come for my opinion on the matter and that includes family and non. The rest could think what they wish of me and their assumptions regarding my stance, and I just don't care. Which I guess is another difference between you and me. I've never given a shit about what the city at large thinks of me. Apparently you do. So, since you spent all this time caring so damned much about what the city thought of you that you sacrificed your sanity and reputation to prove a point, then I guess I just have one question for you. Throughout all these months, with all your random holy waters, your random baiting messages left, your random usage of thralls and your actions of a Hollywood stalker, was it worth it proving a point that hardly anyone will remember tomorrow in which the side effect is everyone else in the city now questioning everything that now comes from you? Somehow, I'm thinking the answer will probably be no.
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Chiru
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Post by Chiru on Oct 5, 2008 13:23:58 GMT -8
*laughs* You think the dead care? I would hazard they don't. And they are past any humanization of a place that is merely dirt, stone and rotting corpse's. I never did understand vampire's need to make that place off limits. Personally, I think it's a wildly stupid idea created by some lingering human failing on our parts. Some are free to believe the cemetery some sacrosanct area of the city. To me, it's just a place with bones... rotting decomposing and useless bones. Of course, mine is a wholly unpopular opinion and many would think me a heartless and cold bitch for it. I'm not really caring about that either. Have fun Meph... let us know when you have him dead. However their are those who are still walking that do. Now of course there is nothing wrong in your logic, in all truth it is indeed those who have connections within there that have not been able to fully move on from it that require the place. In either case, she (I) don't see you as a heartless or cold bitch for those thoughts, only one who has taken on a more logical reason as to why it's there and who it really severs. Though in the end can't say if she (I) would hit within the graveyard or wouldn't until forced to deal with such a thing. Hopefully it will never happen and if it does, will deal with it when it happens.
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Post by Vella on Oct 6, 2008 3:33:45 GMT -8
*GASPS* Wait...you're not a cold bitch? (And I say that with love). One good thing about you Damari is that you are well rounded--an all sorts kind of woman and I gotta say I like the bitch in you as well cuz without it, it just wouldn't be 'Damari'. As for the graveyard...again, I think it's everyone's personal opinion what they think of it but for me, I like to think that even though we are cold hearted creatures, we still have the ability to be able to respect a place such as the Graveyard. I've never been in the position where I had to make a decision about hitting someone there and who really knows what one would choose to do in the heat of battle but for me, I like the idea that we have a place or 2 that we treat as kind of 'scared'-whatever that means to each one of us. modifed to add: I sure as hell do not agree with anyone who thinks they can hide out in there if they're a target and relying on the fact that someone else thinks hitting there is not an option. That would change things for me. *laughs* You think the dead care? I would hazard they don't. And they are past any humanization of a place that is merely dirt, stone and rotting corpse's. I never did understand vampire's need to make that place off limits. Personally, I think it's a wildly stupid idea created by some lingering human failing on our parts. Some are free to believe the cemetery some sacrosanct area of the city. To me, it's just a place with bones... rotting decomposing and useless bones. Of course, mine is a wholly unpopular opinion and many would think me a heartless and cold bitch for it. I'm not really caring about that either. Have fun Meph... let us know when you have him dead.
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