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Post by Pulse St. John on Nov 21, 2009 16:36:54 GMT -8
I would like to take a moment and point out nothing in what I posted was explicit. Thanks. You posted the links here. The links led to explicit content. You may not have written it, but you brought it here. And just because you edited your post [after plenty had time to see it] doesn't mean you didn't anything wrong. User's web site may not contain content promoting the use of illegal drugs, alcohol, sex, pornography, nudity, or any other form of adult content, profanity, hate, "spam," fraud, racism, mlm, pyramid schemes, or promote any illegal activity. Edit to add a quote from the TOS I'm sorry, I call bullshit. I edited because I was requested too. Though there was nothing explicit about what I posted. I quite understand the Terms of Service for the Proboard forums. What I did post lead to nothing more. It was a statement of yes, Pulse has dirt. My photobucket is private, that means even if you see what I give you the link too, doesn't mean you can get to the rest so no, I'm sorry what I posted in no way shape or form promoted the use of any quoted above. So in conclusion, I did do nothing wrong. Now I wait for my. STFU I'm MOD me have bigger stick than you reply.
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Elektra
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Post by Elektra on Nov 21, 2009 17:12:55 GMT -8
Mods are here to help you run YOUR place, and to implement YOUR rules. To me, modding is quite easy, because there's just mostly none needed. I don't want any, save the minimum required... I'll do my best to keep that, even if it means exchanging lots of PMs with lots of people, to try to find solutions. I like finding stuff where everyone gets happy. See, and I wish everyone had that understanding. Keep the ones that do, lose the ones that don't. Personally, I feel that it's best the more 'neutra'l pires should be the mods, those who stay close to the shadows and hardly have any drama involved with -anyone-. Sure, it may seem like discrimination, but no one would be calling out bias for moderation. Prevention is better than cure.
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Post by Kiki St. John on Nov 21, 2009 18:13:21 GMT -8
Frankly all this is annoying me but I feel the need to point this out. Everyone is screaming about David/Pulse breaking the TOS but some things seem to be missed. The biggest is that what he posted was NOT explicit in any way. He posted it after fair warning for Majica to not use Pulse as a weapon, which as you can see, she welcomed him to do. He posted just enough to let her know that he had dirt and would use it should he feel the need to do so. MAJICA took it too far and imo is the one who broke the TOS.
Before anyone even starts, NO I'm not saying this because Kiki is Pulse's daughter NOR am I saying this because Kiki dislikes Majica or I dislike Monica. Neither of those statements are true. I don't know Monica and Kiki has never spoken directly to Majica that I can recall. I'm saying this simply because I can't stand to sit here and watch someone be made out to have done sth they didn't do.
/end rant.
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Post by Damiana Jones on Nov 21, 2009 18:19:28 GMT -8
I honestly don't see how that quote really shows that Majica went too far. Just saying.
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Post by Kiki St. John on Nov 21, 2009 18:24:12 GMT -8
I didn't quote where Majica went too far because she did just that.. went too far and I'm not about to post it a second time. That quote was merely to point out that she welcomed Pulse's post, which again, wasn't explicit.
edited to fix a comma >.>
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Post by Mandolin on Nov 21, 2009 18:37:30 GMT -8
Majica's post was edited to remove the explicit content anyway... and it was just that. Explicit.
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Post by Louvain on Nov 22, 2009 9:03:32 GMT -8
I didn't SEE David's post. And I'm wondering if "Removed by Coq's request" meant that Monica told him I said it had to be removed, and I didn't.
This was the extent of the conversation,
"Coq, you need to remove Pulse's picture. It's from the Wilde site and graphically depicts sex." "I'm not home right now. You need to find the mod for that section and have them look at it and see if it breaks TOS." "It's ________ (bad memory, but more about what happened and why it was inappropriate.)" "I'm still not home right now. How about finding Damia or the mod for that section? (I thought Cassady was the mod. Oops.. >.<)"
I didn't -see- the post and I certainly didn't request for it to be removed for breaking TOS without having a moderator look at it and say whether or not it broke TOS. So, if that's what was said I'm also pretty damn disappointed that someone used my not being there as an advantage to get what they wanted.
Whether or not it was graphic is moot at this point because the thread has been locked and the general consensus was that it was un-necessary and graphic in some way, but I'd really actually like to see what was posted via PM so I can gauge for myself, because I certainly didn't blindly authorize anything to be removed from 30 miles away from home, I asked Monica to go to a different mod and have them make the call.
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Post by Majica on Nov 22, 2009 9:19:15 GMT -8
No, you didn't ask me to ask David to remove it, just that if it needed to be removed to contact a mod, at which point I did. Mod wasn't available at the time so I contacted Pulse myself and asked him to take it down via our conversation since no one else was available and he was author. But did you ask me to contact David yourself? No.. I don't think so.
Did I feel it might be tossable? Yes I did, considering what happened to the TDR. Did I want to see that happen to the Bite? No. But with how peeps are, it was definately a possibility, "I" felt.
While Sheridan and Maji didn't have sex, there were certainly some things that could be considered questionable by those under 16 and while it was taken from a private site and shown here, I myself didn't want the Bite to be at risk.
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Post by Louvain on Nov 22, 2009 9:20:55 GMT -8
Okay. And nope, I just said find a mod. I was just reading through it again and my brain went, "Whoa whoa whoa Coq made no such request." Thank you for clearing that one up, lady. I do appreciate people at least looking out for the forum, despite whatever other agenda they have for doing it.
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Post by Mandolin on Nov 22, 2009 9:23:14 GMT -8
I didn't SEE David's post. And I'm wondering if "Removed by Coq's request" meant that Monica told him I said it had to be removed, and I didn't. This was the extent of the conversation, "Coq, you need to remove Pulse's picture. It's from the Wilde site and graphically depicts sex." I'd just like to point out that that bold bit right there is epic BS. I know I'm not the only one who will say that either. I had the links saved and checked them before I was going to send them over, but it looks like David has removed them from Photobucket. I'll bet he still has them on his comp though, so I'd poke him about getting copies. Nothing in that IC thread 'graphically depicted' anything until Majica's post... which is about when I signed off and went to bed because I could see where that was going. To sum up: David/Pulse posted two screen shots from the Wilde site which showed Majica and Sheradin Wilde returning from some sort of outing. Goodnight kiss, Majica thinking about what a good night it was, but somehow was unfulfilled... and a little snip of Sheradin Wilde thinking about how darling and strong Majica was. Neither of the shots showed anything that could be considered more than PG or PG-13 Monica/Majica directly C&P a different post from the same thread on the Wilde site that came after the posts David posted shots of. The C&P was of Majica and Sheradin all but 'getting it on' and was definitely something that should not have been posted here under any circumstances. I'm not sure if you'll get the shots you're looking for, Sirena, but I hope you do so you can suss it out yourself ~edited to remove some snark, because I'm trying to be nice~
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Post by seyda on Nov 22, 2009 9:34:38 GMT -8
Yeah, I was sent the links that David posted as well, and there was nothing explicit within them. I didn't see what Monica responded with in her link, so I really can't comment on that.
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Post by ◞◯◟ on Nov 22, 2009 9:42:18 GMT -8
Isn't the Wilde site hosted by Proboards?
If so, then any content there that doesn't break the TOS there wouldn't break the TOS here. If it does break the TOS, then there's a little problem....
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Post by Majica on Nov 22, 2009 10:12:46 GMT -8
Because there was no sex and nothing that was implied, which was the point. It didn't happen despite Davids attempt to make everyone think it did. The portion I showed was what he left off intentionally where it made them look like that was what they were doing. And sorry, that was just wrong.
I still don't even know his point of putting those screenshots up where he crossed charrie's in order to do it. That's one of the huge problems of this game. People crossing charries so convientatly to use for their gain. It's sad.
And Amanda, I already spoke to Sirena. We're all human and people make mistakes, even myself. I apologized to her for MY error.
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Post by Beezil on Nov 22, 2009 10:14:52 GMT -8
Agreed. Crossing makes me angweh. >.>
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Post by Majica on Nov 22, 2009 10:21:03 GMT -8
Monica/Majica directly C&P a different post from the same thread on the Wilde site that came after the posts David posted shots of. The C&P was of Majica and Sheradin all but 'getting it on' and was definitely something that should not have been posted here under any circumstances. I copied the same exact thing that David posted in the screenshot, but in text form. And the reason I did was to show in it's entirity, what David had ommited on purpose. His intention in crossing charries, was to make it look like Maji was having sex, which is the SAME thing that you're trying to do here Amanda.
That's where a line is crossed. You won't listen to anything else other than that cause it's already made up in your mind even though it didn't happen and it's been told several times.
Trying to take something (like those screenie's) and saying it hapened a different way than what it did, doesn't make it so. But you'll exhaust yourself in an attempt to do so. Sorry.. that is just sooo wrong.
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