Boomerangele
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Post by Boomerangele on Sept 3, 2009 12:02:29 GMT -8
Ahem
The Splinters of Dusk Codex does not expressly prohibit either advertising or soliciting. I believe that was the question originally posed before estrogen poisoning polluted this topic. I too am uncomfortable with the idea of the Splinters going to individuals not because of the desperation factor but because it is a slippery slope towards bias and the potential for breaking Rule 6 of the Codex.
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Idony
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Post by Idony on Sept 3, 2009 12:34:15 GMT -8
It's probably just the desperation factor. This city's dead as it is; neutral clans don't even have the luxury of starting their own fights, they have to rely on others' grudges to have fun. But lately, I think it's mostly the Splinters that have had a little, if any fun at all.
And speaking of the Codex...
"3. What happens if I refuse to pay?
[...] if we successfully damage a vampire to your requirements as you outlined it when you contacted us, and you refuse to acknowledge our work and refuse to pay, you break the contract - and fully allow us to break the contract, as well. That primarily means that your name will be published, your enemy will be funded to allow Necromancer repairs, and you will be put on an internal ignore list, disallowing you from ever contracting us again."
Do I have the right to repeat this? I think I do. It isn't completely against the clan rules to reveal a contractor's name; all it takes is for said contractor to not make their payment (the latter 50%, strictly speaking). But this is null, given that - as far as I've been reading the news - no contractor's name has ever been revealed. All it takes is a few malcontent numb nuts; nobody's really complained of mistreatment, or bragged about preferential treatment for that matter.
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Post by Brom Narum on Sept 3, 2009 15:45:19 GMT -8
Just derailing from Idony's shpleel there...
They attack someone. They, don't get paid. So.. they give money to the person they're attacking...
Welp. Hope you lot enjoy that.
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Promethius
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Post by Promethius on Sept 3, 2009 15:50:22 GMT -8
aaaaahahahahahaha look who's here.
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Post by seyda on Sept 4, 2009 4:46:24 GMT -8
From such a simple post, springs forth rampant insults, the mob rules as always... Oh come on. Really? Chicko comes in here defending her kid thinking that she's taking a giant shot at ophelia. She ended up looking stupid. She claims to be all independent, and then has to have her kid come in and try to defend her and fails. There is no secret that there is bad blood between the two families, and this is then, yet again I might add, passed off as mob rule. I must ask, why is it that any time any other vampires in the city run their mouth, noone runs around claiming mob rule? Oh, that's right. I forgot. My name is Seyda St. John, and all of you hate me and so that logically means that anytime another vampire named St. John comments, it's automatically mob rule. Got it. *thumbs up*
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Post by Majica on Sept 4, 2009 5:25:13 GMT -8
Oh come on. Really? Chicko comes in here defending her kid thinking that she's taking a giant shot at ophelia. She ended up looking stupid. She claims to be all independent, and then has to have her kid come in and try to defend her and fails. There is no secret that there is bad blood between the two families, and this is then, yet again I might add, passed off as mob rule.
I must ask, why is it that any time any other vampires in the city run their mouth, noone runs around claiming mob rule? Oh, that's right. I forgot. My name is Seyda St. John, and all of you hate me and so that logically means that anytime another vampire named St. John comments, it's automatically mob rule.
Got it. *thumbs up* Stupid? Ooh please. Dear, if you haven't realized it by now, the more you talk, the better you make me look. So by all means, please.. carry on. Brutus only hit the nail squarely on the head when calling that one.
I think I made a very valid point where ophelia is concerned. I called it how I saw it. She's quick to scold peeps when 'she' feels something should have been private but she can't hack it when it's suggested to her? Don't like it? Too bad. oOh.. and what did my question poised to her do? It brought forth the whole lot of you. Wow. Thanks for giving me that power!
Your little tit-de-tat back and forth convo with ophelia on what she'd think I'd do that you felt soooo proud to post up... lols.. thanks for giving me that power again. But if you thought it made you look like a big girl let me let you in on a little something... it made you look 10 years old.
As for Moons. He is his own person and you should know by now former Sire of mine, that I don't resort to the same tactics that you do in that regard. Ass kissing? *looks to how many of yours have their lips firmly cemented to your ass in this thread & have resorted to name calling* It seems those who squawk the loudest are usually guilty of the offense. So what would be your defense now? Or do you need us to wait while you flip back among the pages to see how many of yours, compared to mine have stepped forward to shine up on their ass kissing skills hmm?
Bad blood between the families? Geeze.. I wonder why. But do you reaaally want to go there and hash all that out publicly? Cause if you do, I promise you I'm down for the count and I have nothing but time m'dear so bring it. Ooh.. and let's be sure that you call your family to join you cause that's what they do soooo well when it comes to doling out the insults.
And Seyda.. I promise you this.. I was a strong, independant woman for 5 years before I chose to take you as my Sire -out of gratitude- and now that I'm on my own again through fault of yours I might add, I assure you I am just as stong and independant as I ever was. And if you don't believe that then I welcome you to test it.
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Post by Moons on Sept 4, 2009 6:19:01 GMT -8
It was early morning, the sky was a dusky purple as Moons slipped from his bedroom into the study he used to house the majority of the books he used regularly, and his various business documents. Shifting the cup of tea away from his keyboard, he grumbled. His servants knew his schedule, knew just when to warm his drink and place it on his desk so that it would be perfect by the time he got into his study, but no amount of telling them could seem to get his cup and saucer moved any further away from the computer he was still learning to use. Flicking the machine on, he leaned back in his chair, sipping the earthy coloured liquid while he watched the screen flash varius colours; it was set to automatically pop up with the web, and the Bite. Letting the auto-update function cycle through the posts he'd not read since last visitting, such that he could remain leaned back and enjoy his tea in peace, one particular article made him give a chocked snort. He only narrowly avoided spraying the screen before he placed his drink down and pressed a button on his keyboard. The auto type function started instantly: "Seyda, please. I know the whole "Re-tell history the way you see it, and others will see it too" is a valid tactic, but lets pick this appart from the beginning, yanno, for fun. Maji defends PI? Yeah, I belieive that, Maji likes to defend her childer, but she also had a valid point. Trying to pass that "call out the SoD" post as a public service announcement is about as logical as giving a chimpanzee a wrench and telling them to fix your plumbing. So yeah, ophelia was "nice" structurally, but it was pretty clear that her intent there was to not so "nice". Couching malintent inside of polite words is just kinda...well, sophmoric. Don't get me wrong, I find it to be a perfectly valid form of subterfuge, I just think that it's largely transparent. If ophelia were really practicing what she were preaching, or if she were really intending on avoiding "Drama" altogether as she likes to pass herself off as doing, she would have gone to PI in private, and then posted in public based on those results. Yanno, unless she was just trying to get people to be defensive for PI, or because she was trying to degrade the reputation of the SoD with her "nice" lil post. But yeah, so naturally it's Maji who looks stupid because she told you to go shut up and sit in your corner, basically. And, you know, your reply was so mature, all you did was prove that you talk with your friend about her when she won't give you the time of day anymore unless her childe is involved. Oh yeah, and you've not been taunting her in various posts since she severed from you, nope, cuz she's the stupid one in this situation. Anyway, so I'm going to presume that I'm that kid that tried to defend her? Because I have no thought of my own, which means that you coming to defend ophelia means that you have no mind of your own? And your childer, Delphine and Pulse coming to cheer you on means that they have no mind of their own? Gee, say it like that and you begin to think the only two with a good thought are ophelia and Maji! Nah, doll, your logic is just losing its edge. Anyway, so the whole mob rule thing I'm not even going to touch because lets face it, two families with "bad blood" (Read as, one side antagonizes the other, and the other side just tries to stay away from them for months at a time. Yeah, I'll let you figure out which is which ) who go at it in public couldn't ever be treated as a mob rule. Yeah, once again, great logic there, chica. How about we look at things from a more realistic standpoint. Ophelia tries to make the SoD look bad, and Maji comes in to defend her childe after ophelia is repeatedly asked to clarify her issue, and PI has to ask...twice for clarity? So then, when she realizes she's actually coming off as stupid and/or that her original intent is becoming more apparent, she backpedals, pulls out of the thread for the most part, has her little cronies go in to draw the thing off topic, and of course, covers her ass by making a post about how everything is resovled. So the thread continues to deteriorate, no thanks to me of course (Yeah, because this spider loves his chaos), and in the meantime you have Maji trying to pull out, you trying to pull her back in or...whatever you were doing, and your kids going "Rah rah, go Seyda!", yanno, because I'm the one who kisses my sire's ass. Oh, then you have me. I don't normally like to get into these little posty piss fests, but I've been in a good mood lately, so I thought I'd join in and have fun at the party. Luckily, I enjoy this kind of thing, and if there is one source of endless entertainment around, it's stupid people who keep biting at a bone, or whacking a dead horse. Noted, I do take my blame in this, but then someone has to actually be in this for fun as opposed to trying to prove that there's "bad blood" between two lines. Congrats, Seyda, you've helped to perpetuate RBC' different names, different faces, but still that old home smell. " When he was done, he simply transfered the post from his document maker to the forum, and clicked "Enter". Sitting back once more in his chair, he continued reading through the paper, smiling to the thought of the backlash to follow. ((Edit: Left part out, sorry 'bout that. And yeah, I know it's old-fashioned RP-ish. Lemme alone, I can do what I want! >.>))
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Sept 4, 2009 8:18:09 GMT -8
First post asking the question: 9-1-09
Request from clan leader for clarification on the topic: 9-1-09
Clarification given on question as requested: 9-1-09
Those were the first three posts in this thread kiddo, so learn to count (excluding the first smarmy comments in there between our postings). You’re sire then chose to pop up in an attempt to school me and put me in my place and it failed miserably because, as I’ve just said, the question was raised, a request was made, the request was fulfilled and the answer was given. All in the first THREE posts here. There was/is no need for me to backpedal on anything, so yet again, you are wrong. It helps to pay attention. My stating that it is silly to be insulting to leadership was addressing someone elses comment. I reiterated the explanation given as I understand it. My stating that ‘I’ was not the one approached/is a potential contractor addressed an impression I received in some of the posts. Again, not backpedaling but rather simple statements for clarification.
Any insults that might have been directed toward Majica’s childe did not come from me, therefore her comment was meant to be insulting (which failed by the way), was pointless and only served to make her appear stupid.
I hope this helps!
~HiS~
*edited for spelling error*
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Post by Delphine on Sept 4, 2009 8:20:16 GMT -8
tell me how I am ass-kissing by calling you, Majica, a spoiled brat? I was there and witness to most of the drama that happened within the family .. initiated by who? by you, Majica. funny how it's all quiet and peaceful and harmonious again, since you have left.
Yes, ophelia's point was made public, because it is a public statement frequently brought forth by the SoD, therefore it is in the best interest of all of us to be made aware. My Gawd, did someone really have to spell that out for you? You certainly are NOT the sharpest tool in the shed, eh?! but, you will surely retort saying I am such a meanie and sucking up to my sire. Yeeeah, you got me all figured out, cause you know me oh-so-well.
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Sept 4, 2009 8:29:09 GMT -8
Stupid? I think I made a very valid point where ophelia is concerned. I called it how I saw it. She's quick to scold peeps when 'she' feels something should have been private but she can't hack it when it's suggested to her? Don't like it? Too bad. oOh.. and what did my question poised to her do? It brought forth the whole lot of you. Wow. Thanks for giving me that power!
Your little tit-de-tat back and forth convo with ophelia on what she'd think I'd do that you felt soooo proud to post up... lols.. thanks for giving me that power again. But if you thought it made you look like a big girl let me let you in on a little something... it made you look 10 years old.
I know you've never been more than a simpering breeder in this city Majica so I'm hoping I can help educate you. A 'clan' question is not a private matter, it is a public matter should a practice of said clan that advertises for monetary compensation in public be questionable, confusing or just plain not clear. Should I have had issue with a direct vampire then I would have addressed it WITH that vampire. In private. So let me do it slow for you. My. Inquiry. Was. In. Regards. To. A. Clan. Practice. A. Clan. That. Advertises. For. Business. As well, Seyda's posted conversation between us was not to give you power, and if you think it does I feel sorry for you, it was for me. Yo Seyda. I told you so! If her posting that conversation makes her look ten years old, then you've been in diapers your entire time here with your behavior. If your blurb of stupidity toward me here brought forth some of the St. Johns, perhaps it is because they actually paid attention to what was said and done, unlike yourself. Again, if that gives you some kind of power, saying something stupid and being corrected and having peeps comment on it, I feel even sorrier for you. I hope this helps. ~HiS~
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seyda
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Post by seyda on Sept 4, 2009 9:09:13 GMT -8
Oh come on. Really? Chicko comes in here defending her kid thinking that she's taking a giant shot at ophelia. She ended up looking stupid. She claims to be all independent, and then has to have her kid come in and try to defend her and fails. There is no secret that there is bad blood between the two families, and this is then, yet again I might add, passed off as mob rule.
I must ask, why is it that any time any other vampires in the city run their mouth, noone runs around claiming mob rule? Oh, that's right. I forgot. My name is Seyda St. John, and all of you hate me and so that logically means that anytime another vampire named St. John comments, it's automatically mob rule.
Got it. *thumbs up* Stupid? Ooh please. Dear, if you haven't realized it by now, the more you talk, the better you make me look. So by all means, please.. carry on. Brutus only hit the nail squarely on the head when calling that one.
I think I made a very valid point where ophelia is concerned. I called it how I saw it. She's quick to scold peeps when 'she' feels something should have been private but she can't hack it when it's suggested to her? Don't like it? Too bad. oOh.. and what did my question poised to her do? It brought forth the whole lot of you. Wow. Thanks for giving me that power!
Your little tit-de-tat back and forth convo with ophelia on what she'd think I'd do that you felt soooo proud to post up... lols.. thanks for giving me that power again. But if you thought it made you look like a big girl let me let you in on a little something... it made you look 10 years old.
As for Moons. He is his own person and you should know by now former Sire of mine, that I don't resort to the same tactics that you do in that regard. Ass kissing? *looks to how many of yours have their lips firmly cemented to your ass in this thread & have resorted to name calling* It seems those who squawk the loudest are usually guilty of the offense. So what would be your defense now? Or do you need us to wait while you flip back among the pages to see how many of yours, compared to mine have stepped forward to shine up on their ass kissing skills hmm?
Bad blood between the families? Geeze.. I wonder why. But do you reaaally want to go there and hash all that out publicly? Cause if you do, I promise you I'm down for the count and I have nothing but time m'dear so bring it. Ooh.. and let's be sure that you call your family to join you cause that's what they do soooo well when it comes to doling out the insults.
And Seyda.. I promise you this.. I was a strong, independant woman for 5 years before I chose to take you as my Sire -out of gratitude- and now that I'm on my own again through fault of yours I might add, I assure you I am just as stong and independant as I ever was. And if you don't believe that then I welcome you to test it. And I've supposedly given you power? LOL Let me make this simple. No hash out is required because you're simply not good enough to take that much of my time. Although, apparently I'm worth 6 paragraphs of yours. Good luck with that, Majica.
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Post by seyda on Sept 4, 2009 9:11:25 GMT -8
It was early morning, the sky was a dusky purple as Moons slipped from his bedroom into the study he used to house the majority of the books he used regularly, and his various business documents. Shifting the cup of tea away from his keyboard, he grumbled. His servants knew his schedule, knew just when to warm his drink and place it on his desk so that it would be perfect by the time he got into his study, but no amount of telling them could seem to get his cup and saucer moved any further away from the computer he was still learning to use. Flicking the machine on, he leaned back in his chair, sipping the earthy coloured liquid while he watched the screen flash varius colours; it was set to automatically pop up with the web, and the Bite. Letting the auto-update function cycle through the posts he'd not read since last visitting, such that he could remain leaned back and enjoy his tea in peace, one particular article made him give a chocked snort. He only narrowly avoided spraying the screen before he placed his drink down and pressed a button on his keyboard. The auto type function started instantly: "Seyda, please. I know the whole "Re-tell history the way you see it, and others will see it too" is a valid tactic, but lets pick this appart from the beginning, yanno, for fun. Maji defends PI? Yeah, I belieive that, Maji likes to defend her childer, but she also had a valid point. Trying to pass that "call out the SoD" post as a public service announcement is about as logical as giving a chimpanzee a wrench and telling them to fix your plumbing. So yeah, ophelia was "nice" structurally, but it was pretty clear that her intent there was to not so "nice". Couching malintent inside of polite words is just kinda...well, sophmoric. Don't get me wrong, I find it to be a perfectly valid form of subterfuge, I just think that it's largely transparent. If ophelia were really practicing what she were preaching, or if she were really intending on avoiding "Drama" altogether as she likes to pass herself off as doing, she would have gone to PI in private, and then posted in public based on those results. Yanno, unless she was just trying to get people to be defensive for PI, or because she was trying to degrade the reputation of the SoD with her "nice" lil post. But yeah, so naturally it's Maji who looks stupid because she told you to go shut up and sit in your corner, basically. And, you know, your reply was so mature, all you did was prove that you talk with your friend about her when she won't give you the time of day anymore unless her childe is involved. Oh yeah, and you've not been taunting her in various posts since she severed from you, nope, cuz she's the stupid one in this situation. Anyway, so I'm going to presume that I'm that kid that tried to defend her? Because I have no thought of my own, which means that you coming to defend ophelia means that you have no mind of your own? And your childer, Delphine and Pulse coming to cheer you on means that they have no mind of their own? Gee, say it like that and you begin to think the only two with a good thought are ophelia and Maji! Nah, doll, your logic is just losing its edge. Anyway, so the whole mob rule thing I'm not even going to touch because lets face it, two families with "bad blood" (Read as, one side antagonizes the other, and the other side just tries to stay away from them for months at a time. Yeah, I'll let you figure out which is which ) who go at it in public couldn't ever be treated as a mob rule. Yeah, once again, great logic there, chica. How about we look at things from a more realistic standpoint. Ophelia tries to make the SoD look bad, and Maji comes in to defend her childe after ophelia is repeatedly asked to clarify her issue, and PI has to ask...twice for clarity? So then, when she realizes she's actually coming off as stupid and/or that her original intent is becoming more apparent, she backpedals, pulls out of the thread for the most part, has her little cronies go in to draw the thing off topic, and of course, covers her ass by making a post about how everything is resovled. So the thread continues to deteriorate, no thanks to me of course (Yeah, because this spider loves his chaos), and in the meantime you have Maji trying to pull out, you trying to pull her back in or...whatever you were doing, and your kids going "Rah rah, go Seyda!", yanno, because I'm the one who kisses my sire's ass. Oh, then you have me. I don't normally like to get into these little posty piss fests, but I've been in a good mood lately, so I thought I'd join in and have fun at the party. Luckily, I enjoy this kind of thing, and if there is one source of endless entertainment around, it's stupid people who keep biting at a bone, or whacking a dead horse. Noted, I do take my blame in this, but then someone has to actually be in this for fun as opposed to trying to prove that there's "bad blood" between two lines. Congrats, Seyda, you've helped to perpetuate RBC' different names, different faces, but still that old home smell. " When he was done, he simply transfered the post from his document maker to the forum, and clicked "Enter". Sitting back once more in his chair, he continued reading through the paper, smiling to the thought of the backlash to follow. ((Edit: Left part out, sorry 'bout that. And yeah, I know it's old-fashioned RP-ish. Lemme alone, I can do what I want! >.>)) Aaand the vampire that points out the most inconsistencies with this statement wins a cash prize! No, really. I'll really pay the one who points out the most.
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Post by Majica on Sept 4, 2009 9:28:16 GMT -8
I'll admit this ophelia.. you managed to make me smile with all that 'here let me make myself look all intelligent and try to be specific and businesslike with the dates' when in fact PI had to ask this question later because you'd still not answered her question. Kinda left this one out of your little placements of facts didntcha? Or did you just choose to ignore it cause the flame had already been lit?
Reply #18 on Sept 2, 2009 As its a question of our policies, If you could inform me in what policy has been broken id love to know.
On the other hand, how many have read our codex or talked to us about how we do things? Now you may choose to call me just a breeder and believe me, you do it well and over and over and over again when you need it to fall back on, but truth of the matter is I've held together one of the top 3 largest families in the city for nearly 7 years now. Although we are non aggressive, we have managed well under any and all adversity. I have quite a list of my own accomplishments that you refuse to acknowledge and the fact that you try to diminish mine, or anyone else's achievements for that matter, with your hypocrisy just amazes me. Do you really feel a need to shine that much?
I don't need to resort to biting snippets meant to insult someone or have them question themselves to get a point across. Nor do I have to call in nearly every member of my family and friends to iterate or drive my point across.
And you don't need to dummy anything down for me my dear ophelia. I assure you I pay attention quite well. Quite well.. *smiles* and I don't miss a beat on anything. You and Seyda should know that better than anyone by now. And you both may continue your 'let's slap each other on the back cause we rock this city' when in truth you just look like two stuck up bitter bitches instead of the elitist attitude you're trying so hard to exude. And you may wanna try giddy sometimes. It does wonders for the complexion and helps to take that stick out of one's ass. There is a brighter side to life that doesn't always have to resort to the need to crush someone else in order to make yourself look or feel better.
Delphine.. your view of facts is just so jaded I'm not even going to touch that. You weren't even around most of the time cause you'd left the city, but thank you for proving my point.
And Seyda.. you're the one who chose to step up and speak up here cause.. why? ooh yeah.. cause you wanted to try to give me some kinda last desserts for severing from you no? So if it takes me 6 paragraphs to say what I need to, tuff shit woman.
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Post by Do Not PM this Account. on Sept 4, 2009 9:32:46 GMT -8
Riiiight.
This seems fun.
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Post by Acer Kygnosti on Sept 4, 2009 9:34:28 GMT -8
So, as a general rule, I stay out of pissing matches and just point out the obvious, but this time around I cannot help but think one thing. That one thing is the following: It's over and done with, get over it, drop the subject and forget about it. If it really mattered, it would have been handled long before now.
I'm not supporting either side, because it takes two to fight, I know that very well. So, I'll say this easily. If either side antagonizes the other, they are only perpetuating the problem. Instead of antagonizing, or insulting, just drop the matter and, oh look at that the stain can be mopped up in a matter of minutes.
It surprises me, of course, that many who claim to be mature-ish in their nature haven't figured this out, not to be offensive or rude or insulting, but quite honestly if you were mature (general you, not specific) you would figure out that situations such as this can only degenerate given prompting by the parties involved. Passing insults back and forth and acting like children, on both sides, will do nothing more than add fuel to a fire that should never have raged.
And yes, I know this has all be very impolite, but honestly I don't give a royal flying fuck what is thought about it, the whole point is to highlight one thing: a teenager will look at someone and tell them they're acting like a child and when told they're the one doing it they'll respond with more insults. It goes on and on until one of them just decides it isn't worth it. So, those of you who are the teenagers should shut up, settle their differences, and back off of one another. Then, maybe (just maybe) there wouldn't be a massive Public Relations war going on from two rather large denominations of the City.
If any of you can actually figure out that there's no finger pointing in this, except at one another, I'll gladly pay you compliments and stroke your malformed egos. Have a nice day.
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