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Post by seyda on Sept 4, 2009 9:35:50 GMT -8
Majica, in case you haven't figured it out, I'm GLAD you severed. Keep acting like a monkey bad ass all you want. Every word you utter just proves my point more, so by all means, keep it coming.  |
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Post by Majica on Sept 4, 2009 9:52:44 GMT -8
Majica, in case you haven't figured it out, I'm GLAD you severed. Keep acting like a monkey bad ass all you want. Every word you utter just proves my point more, so by all means, keep it coming.
And why would you have someone point out Moonsie's 'supposed' inconsistencies when you're not willing to do it yourself. Ahh.. that's right. You're used to someone else doing your dirty work. Got it. |
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Post by Mandolin on Sept 4, 2009 10:02:44 GMT -8
I'm betting most people didn't even bother to read what Moons posted simply because if you need that many words to explain something simple, you're probably trying to over validate whatever it is you're defending.
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Acer Kygnosti
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Post by Acer Kygnosti on Sept 4, 2009 10:03:16 GMT -8
So, as a general rule, I stay out of pissing matches and just point out the obvious, but this time around I cannot help but think one thing. That one thing is the following: It's over and done with, get over it, drop the subject and forget about it. If it really mattered, it would have been handled long before now. I'm not supporting either side, because it takes two to fight, I know that very well. So, I'll say this easily. If either side antagonizes the other, they are only perpetuating the problem. Instead of antagonizing, or insulting, just drop the matter and, oh look at that the stain can be mopped up in a matter of minutes. It surprises me, of course, that many who claim to be mature-ish in their nature haven't figured this out, not to be offensive or rude or insulting, but quite honestly if you were mature (general you, not specific) you would figure out that situations such as this can only degenerate given prompting by the parties involved. Passing insults back and forth and acting like children, on both sides, will do nothing more than add fuel to a fire that should never have raged. And yes, I know this has all be very impolite, but honestly I don't give a royal flying fuck what is thought about it, the whole point is to highlight one thing: a teenager will look at someone and tell them they're acting like a child and when told they're the one doing it they'll respond with more insults. It goes on and on until one of them just decides it isn't worth it. So, those of you who are the teenagers should shut up, settle their differences, and back off of one another. Then, maybe (just maybe) there wouldn't be a massive Public Relations war going on from two rather large denominations of the City. If any of you can actually figure out that there's no finger pointing in this, except at one another, I'll gladly pay you compliments and stroke your malformed egos. Have a nice day. Quoted, because no one read the attempt to stop the fighting. Oh, and because some people are incapable of figuring it out. ETA: that second bit after the quote. |
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Post by asmia on Sept 4, 2009 10:14:15 GMT -8
Majica, in case you haven't figured it out, I'm GLAD you severed. Keep acting like a monkey bad ass all you want. Every word you utter just proves my point more, so by all means, keep it coming. WHO asked you to reconsider? Answer carefully. |
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Post by Majica on Sept 4, 2009 10:16:00 GMT -8
So, as a general rule, I stay out of pissing matches and just point out the obvious, but this time around I cannot help but think one thing. That one thing is the following: It's over and done with, get over it, drop the subject and forget about it. If it really mattered, it would have been handled long before now. I'm not supporting either side, because it takes two to fight, I know that very well. So, I'll say this easily. If either side antagonizes the other, they are only perpetuating the problem. Instead of antagonizing, or insulting, just drop the matter and, oh look at that the stain can be mopped up in a matter of minutes. It surprises me, of course, that many who claim to be mature-ish in their nature haven't figured this out, not to be offensive or rude or insulting, but quite honestly if you were mature (general you, not specific) you would figure out that situations such as this can only degenerate given prompting by the parties involved. Passing insults back and forth and acting like children, on both sides, will do nothing more than add fuel to a fire that should never have raged. And yes, I know this has all be very impolite, but honestly I don't give a royal flying fuck what is thought about it, the whole point is to highlight one thing: a teenager will look at someone and tell them they're acting like a child and when told they're the one doing it they'll respond with more insults. It goes on and on until one of them just decides it isn't worth it. So, those of you who are the teenagers should shut up, settle their differences, and back off of one another. Then, maybe (just maybe) there wouldn't be a massive Public Relations war going on from two rather large denominations of the City. If any of you can actually figure out that there's no finger pointing in this, except at one another, I'll gladly pay you compliments and stroke your malformed egos. Have a nice day. Quoted, because no one read the attempt to stop the fighting. Oh, and because some people are incapable of figuring it out. ETA: that second bit after the quote. |
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Post by Moons on Sept 4, 2009 10:22:51 GMT -8
His computer scrolled back to a thread he'd replied to earlier in the day and has he read over the first reply that was made after his post, he readied his voice-type program.
"Yes, because calling another vampire "Kiddo" when they've been around for years makes another vampire look big and tough. But then, I guess my attachment to the term "Doll" doesn't help me very much at all either. But reading through the reply, I couldn't help but be drawn to the same post that Maji was. Obviously the matter wasn't resolved, and much as you'd like to discredit what I said, the majority of it still holds true. Thus, trying to subvert my words with dates, and half-formed logic, well gramaticized sentences, and so on doesn't really combat anything."
He paused then to make sucking and kissing sounds at his monitor whiel reading through Delphine's reply, only to have his computer scroll past it to the next, which was one of ophelia's. He made sure the voice-type function was working before continuing.
"Once again! I never said that there shouldn't have been a public post at all. But, posting in public means that anybody can reply. You very easily could have gone to PI in private and then posted publicly that you do not like the practice AFTER verifying that the practice was actually being used. Instead, you tried to dress up an insult to another clan leader in pretty clothes and then send it off to school. Sorry, but in the real world, that just doesn't fly. Sorry for answering your answer to someone else, but I felt the urge."
His eyes narrowed slightly as he squinted to read the few words used in reply by Seyda, eventually giving up on it altogether with a hearty chuckle. The next post was no better. As per the usual, he agreed with Majica, that was, after all why the woman was his sire; the two of them tended to get along and agree on issues. He couldn't control the perception that such agreement made, but he did find it funny that out of 24 childer, only one had said anything to aid Majica; and yet she was the one considered to be dependent, the one who had people kissing her ass. He didn't voice these concerns though, merely moving onto the next post.
Next came Coquette's post, which didn't require answering, so he moved on. Acer's post was, as usual for the man, generally well thought out. He'd have to send the ex-childe love at some point in the future. Of course Vaen was well aware that he was only adding to the chaos, and to the issues that should have just been left at that; but he was also having fun, and it didn't look like the replies were going to die away anytime soon, so he'd just as well keep going. Finally, the page scrolled automatically to a post he could at least answer, though the brevity would almost not make it worth it, so he simply moved on.
Majica post, well said. He moved on. Mandolin was a person he'd had limitted contact with in the past, and though he could have used more of his time to reply to her, he simply ignored it; the lack of applical logic would end up defeating itself anyway. The rest of the replies did not beg his attention, so he skimmed through them before transfering his words to the forum, selecting "Enter" such that he could get on with his day.
[Edited because I forgot the first part again v.v]
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Sept 4, 2009 10:33:10 GMT -8
Moons, I've been in this city longer than most folks. If I want to call someone kiddo from time to time I can and will. If you find it offensive, dig deep and find that confidence I know you have.
And the practice in question IS being used. It's also just been clarified. And it is a public matter. If I have issue with one of Poison Ivy's members specifically then I will be more than happy to take it to her specifically. I don't know WHY I have to keep repeating that.
~HiS~
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Post by Mandolin on Sept 4, 2009 10:37:44 GMT -8
I don't know WHY I have to keep repeating that. ~HiS~ See, there's a very simple answer to that, but I'm afraid that saying it would set a few Wilde cards off. |
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Post by ophelia Lokason on Sept 4, 2009 10:37:46 GMT -8
I never stated that a SoD policy was broken, nor did I bring it up. Maybe you should harp on whoever said that an actual policy was broken and you’d finally make a point of sorts. I find solicitation to be biased on many levels. However as she addressed my question as well as sentiment of bias by saying that if they get a ‘lead’ they follow up on it, the question of solicitation is answered.
I stopped speaking on the matter on the first page until you opened up your mouth (figuratively) and only then did I respond with pointing out that I have fulfilled requests for clarification etc as you indicated I had done otherwise. I haven’t brought in anyone to drive my point home because my question was, once again, answered.
Since then I’ve addressed your snide comments, had a conversation with Seyda ( I TOLD YOU SO SEYDA) and addressed Moons comments as well as any others I deem directed at me. You seem to be the one that can’t shut up and settle down, but that’s not remarkably surprising either. So apparently I DO have to dummy things down for you or you’d have gotten it by now.
I haven’t made anyone ‘question themselves’ and I have no problem, as has been evident over the years, with being bitchy, snide, snobby, rude, crass, polite and courteous or any of the in between when it suits me. If you have issue with that, yet again take a look in the mirror. You do the very same things, as does ‘most’ of the general population from time to time-when it suits them.
And stop treating Poison Ivy like she’s a kid and not a clan leader that quite effectively cleared a clan question up in very short order. All without your help.
Now HOPEFULLY since I have YET AGAIN addressed comments put to me this can be the end of it, since it was over like FIVE pages ago to begin with.
I hope this helps!
~HiS~
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Post by Majica on Sept 4, 2009 11:13:40 GMT -8
And stop treating Poison Ivy like she’s a kid and not a clan leader that quite effectively cleared a clan question up in very short order. All without your help.
Now HOPEFULLY since I have YET AGAIN addressed comments put to me this can be the end of it, since it was over like FIVE pages ago to begin with.
I hope this helps!
~HiS~
Now.. my original remark had nothing to do with whether or not PI is my childe or whether or not she was in need of my help. Nice diversion though and you keep ringing it in sooo well. What you seem to keep failing to realize is that I posed to you a legitimate question to which was your need to make it public in the first place instead of practicing what you preach, which is telling people they should have messaged the person privately. Any clan leader I've had to deal with, whether it be a question or otherwise, I've always gone to them directly and privately instead of throwing up accusatory and inflammatory remarks meant to belittle them or their way of doing things with the explicit intent of calling them on the carpet or making their organization look feebleminded.
As for all this other stuff, I gave fair warning pages ago if this was to be done publicly, then to bring it and that's exactly what you've done. You certainly could have stopped responding at any time but I guess you too, like myself, feel you need to get your point across. And so if you wish this to end. Then I suggest you merely stop.
Asmia.. I stopped answering to you the moment I severed from Seyda. However, should I ever call you Mother again under any circumstance.. *smiles* then I will be sure to give you the level of respect you give me. Perhaps next time that will remind you to be more careful with your words when you come at someone reminiscent of a rabid dog. |
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Post by Mandolin on Sept 4, 2009 11:25:43 GMT -8
Any clan leader I've had to deal with, whether it be a question or otherwise, I've always gone to them directly and privately instead of throwing up accusatory and inflammatory remarks meant to belittle them or their way of doing things with the explicit intent of calling them on the carpet or making their organization look feebleminded. You seem to think many people have a very short memory span, or have simply forgiven you for past transgressions... so from one who has done neither, allow me to modify your statement for you. You handle matters in private only if you get your way in the end. If not, you stomp your foot and do all manner of underhanded things to either discredit the organization that won't do what you want, harm them physically, or even both. You do not have the room to judge other people as you have. |
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Post by rel on Sept 4, 2009 11:35:26 GMT -8
Whooooeyyyy! Okay, I call bullshit. There's a huge difference between going, as a clan leader, to another clan leader about a personal question that may or may not be for public scrutiny, and posing a general question about a clan that has posted ads. COULD she have? Sure. Anyone could have. But should she have? Why? Well, obviously so you couldn't nit pick semantics because you tried to find an opportunity to do so?
It doesn't equate Majica. If ophelia opinionates that sharing clan secrets or dirty laundry may be a bad choice and perhaps the more preferable route is to go to the direct source instead of filling a thread with drivel? Well, that's completely different than asking about a question about protocol to the splinters.
...and if you even hint to my lips being anywhere near anyone's ass, you're insane. okay well, there's one ass I MAY be near. But I digress...
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Post by Majica on Sept 4, 2009 11:37:28 GMT -8
You seem to think many people have a very short memory span, or have simply forgiven you for past transgressions... so from one who has done neither, allow me to modify your statement for you.
You handle matters in private only if you get your way in the end. If not, you stomp your foot and do all manner of underhanded things to either discredit the organization that won't do what you want, harm them physically, or even both.
You do not have the room to judge other people as you have.
I handle matters privately as best as possible till the shit hits the fan and it's brought into a public light. Just like most everyone else tends to do.
I certainly welcome you to point out the examples you're talking about. I think in matters that need to be taken care of, any responsible leader will do whatever it takes to get a peaceful resolve and well, if that doesn't happen, then I suppose yes, there is foot stomping, etc etc etc. But underhanded? No. To you of course it may seem like that. You were on the loosing team and generally anyone on the loosing side will gather as much. But yeah.. please... enlighten us now that you've broached the subject and brought yourself into this discussion m'dear, of how underhanded I truly am. |
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Post by Rienhardt on Sept 4, 2009 11:40:40 GMT -8
Ok, I'm sorry but I must say: I think its so sad that this is the hot thread at the moment. I hate it when the city is this dead.
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